Not possible to turn off 1 pedal driving?

[SwampNut]

Coasting actually can gain more range then regen can recoup.

So Porsche implemented some kind of physical disconnection from the motors? Because otherwise coasting with your foot control or because the computer is automatically pretending to coast you is the same. The Rivian only has disconnects for the rear.

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[kryptokat]

Am I the only one that is bothered by the vilification and ridicule of others, just for having a different opinion? Whether you like OPD, tolerate it or hate it is just your opinion. There is no need for sarcastic comments accusations and advice telling people to buy something else. Why are people so offended? and feel the need to defend Rivian? Not everyone has to (nor should they) think alike.

 

[CANCERDOC]

Because dummies would do it, and waste energy, brake pads, and then whine that their range is half of the promised range.

100% exactly this.

 

[Mos Eisley]

not so, at least the way Porsche has implemented things, the brake pads are never touched unless it’s a panic braking situation. Coasting actually can gain more range then regen can recoup.

so they say. Porsche has been very good about going their own way and engineering solutions.

 

[DuoRivian]

Am I the only one that is bothered by the vilification and ridicule of others, just for having a different opinion? Whether you like OPD, tolerate it or hate it is just your opinion. There is no need for sarcastic comments accusations and advice telling people to buy something else. Why are people so offended? and feel the need to defend Rivian? Not everyone has to (nor should they) think alike.

Maybe you are and I see you are fairly new here too. It is perfectly acceptable for people to disagree and express their opinions freely.

I believe comments about buy something else were because the OP doesn’t like OPD and therefore if that’s a dealbreaker then a Rivian is not for them since Rivian will not be changing this.

 

[SwampNut]

and advice telling people to buy something else.

Rivian is never going to let people waste energy and brake pads. That's rational advice if regen is a bother.

 

[DuoRivians]

Am I the only one that is bothered by the vilification and ridicule of others, just for having a different opinion? Whether you like OPD, tolerate it or hate it is just your opinion. There is no need for sarcastic comments accusations and advice telling people to buy something else. Why are people so offended? and feel the need to defend Rivian? Not everyone has to (nor should they) think alike.

Strong agree. We can say Rivian isn’t going to offer coasting, without the ridicule and shaming.

Rivian fanboys again proving that if it’s not Rivian’s way, they think it’s wrong

 

[badger4149]

I read that it’s not possible to turn off 1 pedal driving mode in the R2. Can anyone confirm this is true?

I absolutely cannot stand 1 pedal driving. I had a Nissan Ariya and it had an eStep mode I think it was called which is 1 pedal driving and it was horrible. When I let off the pedal it was the feeling of like instantly downshifting 3 gears in a gas car.

Why oh why would they not make this an option you can disable on the R2?

1-pedal driving is awesome, and the only way to go with EVs. It sends free power back to your battery, and saves your conventional brake pads.

 

[mkg3]

So Porsche implemented some kind of physical disconnection from the motors? Because otherwise coasting with your foot control or because the computer is automatically pretending to coast you is the same. The Rivian only has disconnects for the rear.

On the Taycan, instead of just initiating regen when the accelerator pedal is lifted, they engage regen braking when the brake pedal is engaged. The friction brake is further engaged depending on the brake pedal pressure. In my Artura, PHEV, transmission is used regen and charge the battery rather than blending with brake or mapping it onto the throttle.

As for which results in better range - coasting or regen braking - on the highway speeds without lots of stops and gos, coasting increases EV range more than regenerative braking because energy conversion is never 100% efficient. Coasting allows the vehicle to use its kinetic energy directly to keep going.

There are SAE, IEEE and other studies and papers proving this point. In city, stop-and-go traffic, regen clearly has advantage over coasting.

The other thing is your other post listing much of the safety devices implement and implying some how OPD is in the same category, I believe they are apples to oranges kind of comparison as OPD does not save lives like airbags or infant car seats. Further there is no mandate or regulations specifying OPD on EVs.

 

[R1TCntrlMaIzzy]

This is another component Riv is highly unlikely to change. I say rent a Riv via Turo, for a week, then decide if Rivian’s OPD implementation is not for you.

 

[DuoRivian]

Strong agree. We can say Rivian isn’t going to offer coasting, without the ridicule and shaming.

Rivian fanboys again proving that if it’s not Rivian’s way, they think it’s wrong

You were one of the biggest fanboys in years past. How things change.

 

[SteveInBend]

I wonder if preference for OPD is related to experience with cars having a manual transmission. When you drive a stickshift you really learn to modulate the accelerator pedal when shifting gears so that gear changes are less jerky. You also (well me, at least) use down shifting to reduce speed and rely less on the brakes to slow the car down.

So OPD seems natural after driving car with manual transmission.

 

[DuoRivians]

You were one of the biggest fanboys in years past. How things change.

I never said that you were wrong if Rivian disagrees with you. Even on things like CarPlay

 

[VSG]

I wonder if preference for OPD is related to experience with cars having a manual transmission. When you drive a stickshift you really learn to modulate the accelerator pedal when shifting gears so that gear changes are less jerky. You also (well me, at least) use down shifting to reduce speed and rely less on the brakes to slow the car down.

So OPD seems natural after driving car with manual transmission.

My R1T was the first EV I've owned, and also the first daily-driver I've owned that *wasn't* a manual transmission. So 45+ years of driving a manual -> one-pedal driving.

For me, it was a trivial transition. As in, I had one-pedal driving figured out within 1/4 mile of driving on my first test drive (Nov 2021).

I had totally over-thought this. But it doesn't require any intellectual effort at all - you just get in and drive, and pay attention to the feedback between what you are doing and how the car is responding, just like any other tool you might pick up for the first time.

 

[VSG]

or know that when I shut off cruise control that I won't be jerking around my passengers.

Q: Why would you jerk around your passengers when shutting off cruise control?
A: Because you're insistent upon doing things the same as you would in an ICE.

In an ICE, and in an EV, you can disable cruise by tapping the brake.
But in an EV, that means as you tap the brake the accelerator is in a neutral position, which initiates regenerative braking. Since you don't want that, why do you keep doing that? Seriously, after the first time, why didn't you figure out the better way?

If you want to disengage the cruise control in a Rivian and maintain your speed, all you have to do is put your foot on the accelerator and take up the slack, then move the right stalk up to disengage cruise control. Because your foot is on the accelerator holding its position, you will maintain your speed and no-one will have any reason to know you've turned off cruise control.

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