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Lucid also provided a lot of details on the new 2 midsize SUVs. Still don’t know what the car looks like though. Below are quotes directly from Kyle @ OOS in X.
Interesting they choose today for the reveal. It might compete well with the R2.
This morning I was able to be the first person outside of Lucid to see and sit inside the new @LucidMotors Cosmos! This is their new midsize electric SUV and no, I can’t show it to you yet.
What I can say is that the design is sharp, super cool, and totally unique (especially in the rear end). A cab forward design enables a long tail for optimal aero efficiency but it still retains enough roof height for larger dogs. Lighting signatures are strong, bright, and sharp. The car I saw had a metallic red paint with a white interior, which honestly looked striking! Think younger, more modern, really cool looking small Gravity.
It has an insanely large front truck, huge rear cargo space with massive underfloor storage (enabled partly by the new Atlas drive unit), and more than ample second row seating space. I’m 6’1 and my head didn’t touch the expansive glass roof that extends beyond the rear seats, it’s also super wide giving a great airy feeling. Rear floor felt slightly high but there’s still enough room to fit feet underneath the front seat to unlock your leg angle.
I also spent considerable time in the front seat soaking in the view. Huge door opening with a low entry height and a ton of foot room to swing in. Materials looked beautiful in the light interior color with recycled fibers that almost felt like wool. Stitching is everywhere, glass center console cover, dark headliner… it was a high quality warm feeling environment. The A Pillar glass extends extremely far forward which enables incredible view of front blind spots. In addition there’s physical turn signal stalks & gear selector and the same / similar steering wheel out of the Gravity… which looks upside down but feels great in the hands. Oh, bottom hinged accelerator pedal!!
There’s a single pane wide screen floating above the dash that expands across the width of the car. It’s a unique view that doesn’t exist in the western world and I liked the simplicity and location. User interface should look similar to Gravity which is totally fine… if it works. No secondary screen, everything is done through that singular cross-car panel.
Electrical architecture is nearly completely new with centralized compute, insanely cool central gateway mounting location on the firewall, all designed to reduce wiring length / cost / connections. ADAS will likely be using the NVIDIA system for point-to-point L2 capability and they need to get this enabled ASAP as FSD is such a huge selling point for Tesla. Also, huge targets for quick response to phone key / NFC etc… this car can’t have access control problems or major software bugs.
Don’t know exact battery capacity or power output BUT I have some tidbits to share. ~800V system architecture, PM rear motor, induction front motor. Both are from insanely small Atlas drive unit family which I’ll have a full video coming on sometime in the future. Unsure how Lucid is doing 400V boosting, but they’ll be able to charge on Superchargers with no problem. NACS charge port in the rear driver corner. Charging sounds very fast which is badly needed in this segment.
Body in white has some amazing trickery leveraging passageways for woofer / sub woofer air flow, crash structure designed to be easily replaceable in stages to lower insurance costs, and a mixed material compound to reduce cost. Suspension also is pretty advanced for this segment, adaptive damper, virtual ball axis on the lower control arm (fixed on upper), which should give great driver / steering feel compared to the many McPherson strut options others offer. Oh, there are some big castings on this thing but the front / rear aren’t just one giant casting. We’ll talk to Cory Steuben more about that in an upcoming podcast.
Finally this should start at under $50k and feature everything EV drivers want: fast charging, pet mode, route planning, plug and charge, space, comfort, and 0-60 in 3.5 seconds.
Interesting they choose today for the reveal. It might compete well with the R2.
This morning I was able to be the first person outside of Lucid to see and sit inside the new @LucidMotors Cosmos! This is their new midsize electric SUV and no, I can’t show it to you yet.
What I can say is that the design is sharp, super cool, and totally unique (especially in the rear end). A cab forward design enables a long tail for optimal aero efficiency but it still retains enough roof height for larger dogs. Lighting signatures are strong, bright, and sharp. The car I saw had a metallic red paint with a white interior, which honestly looked striking! Think younger, more modern, really cool looking small Gravity.
It has an insanely large front truck, huge rear cargo space with massive underfloor storage (enabled partly by the new Atlas drive unit), and more than ample second row seating space. I’m 6’1 and my head didn’t touch the expansive glass roof that extends beyond the rear seats, it’s also super wide giving a great airy feeling. Rear floor felt slightly high but there’s still enough room to fit feet underneath the front seat to unlock your leg angle.
I also spent considerable time in the front seat soaking in the view. Huge door opening with a low entry height and a ton of foot room to swing in. Materials looked beautiful in the light interior color with recycled fibers that almost felt like wool. Stitching is everywhere, glass center console cover, dark headliner… it was a high quality warm feeling environment. The A Pillar glass extends extremely far forward which enables incredible view of front blind spots. In addition there’s physical turn signal stalks & gear selector and the same / similar steering wheel out of the Gravity… which looks upside down but feels great in the hands. Oh, bottom hinged accelerator pedal!!
There’s a single pane wide screen floating above the dash that expands across the width of the car. It’s a unique view that doesn’t exist in the western world and I liked the simplicity and location. User interface should look similar to Gravity which is totally fine… if it works. No secondary screen, everything is done through that singular cross-car panel.
Electrical architecture is nearly completely new with centralized compute, insanely cool central gateway mounting location on the firewall, all designed to reduce wiring length / cost / connections. ADAS will likely be using the NVIDIA system for point-to-point L2 capability and they need to get this enabled ASAP as FSD is such a huge selling point for Tesla. Also, huge targets for quick response to phone key / NFC etc… this car can’t have access control problems or major software bugs.
Don’t know exact battery capacity or power output BUT I have some tidbits to share. ~800V system architecture, PM rear motor, induction front motor. Both are from insanely small Atlas drive unit family which I’ll have a full video coming on sometime in the future. Unsure how Lucid is doing 400V boosting, but they’ll be able to charge on Superchargers with no problem. NACS charge port in the rear driver corner. Charging sounds very fast which is badly needed in this segment.
Body in white has some amazing trickery leveraging passageways for woofer / sub woofer air flow, crash structure designed to be easily replaceable in stages to lower insurance costs, and a mixed material compound to reduce cost. Suspension also is pretty advanced for this segment, adaptive damper, virtual ball axis on the lower control arm (fixed on upper), which should give great driver / steering feel compared to the many McPherson strut options others offer. Oh, there are some big castings on this thing but the front / rear aren’t just one giant casting. We’ll talk to Cory Steuben more about that in an upcoming podcast.
Finally this should start at under $50k and feature everything EV drivers want: fast charging, pet mode, route planning, plug and charge, space, comfort, and 0-60 in 3.5 seconds.
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