New to forums and Rivian - want to discuss my pre-purchase concerns

[Dr Medjools]

I think you need to build your own EV

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[Eury]

This is absolutely not the vehicle for you. Enjoy your Sierra EV, it’s much closer to what you want in an EV truck, although a F150 hybrid with the 7.2kw Pro Power option and the cell signal disabled is a better option.

 

[BaldThunder]

Holy Socks. I'm a Mustang Mach E owner seriously considering purchasing an R2. I realize most of the time you see mostly bad, rather than good on forums.....but the original post here kinda set me back. Has anyone made the switch from a Mach E to an R1 or to the truck and lived to tell about it? If so, what were your experiences, good and bad. Thanks !!!

Apologies for hijacking the thread. If there is already a similar discussion, I would greatly appreciate being pointed to it.

 

[R1TCntrlMaIzzy]

Many good questions. Most answered somewhere in the “web”. A current and potentially, a future Riv does not seem to be for you and your wants, needs.

 

[McLovin]

I think he is a Rivian troll!

It's a classic troll post. Create a new account, act like you're really excited about something, but then essentially trash it within your post, and then don't engage in the discussion afterwards.

I mean, the title says "want to discuss", yet the OP hasn't been around since the creation of the thread. I've heard the classic "I'm not glued to my phone/computer like some of you" excuse, but we all know that's BS. Who creates a new account, and a new thread, and then doesn't respond? (the answer is a troll, bot, or AI).

 

[Redline]

Imagine how fun OP must be at parties...

 

[carsly]

I didn't read past your top 2-3 concerns because it is pretty obvious that a Rivian, and quite possibly an EV, are not the right choices given your use case.

I've got a 2024 R1T max pack as a loaner right now. 15,000 miles on the clock, lifetime average of 2.3 mi/kwh. On a 141 kwh battery going 100% -> 0% you're looking at 329 miles, unladen, on 22" wheels with all-season tires. My Gen 2 2025 Rivian R1S large pack has an average of 1.5 mi/kwh with a 109 kwh pack making for real-world range of <165 miles. About half EPA. From what I've seen Rivian real-world range is comfortably lower than EPA.

Your only hope, and it is a hope, is a GM pickup EV with a 200+ kwh battery. Good luck with that.

 

[BCondrey]

I got about halfway through before I decided you shouldn't buy a Rivian. I doubt that ANY EV Truck will meet what you want. Just stick with am ICE truck and drive well.

 

[SwampNut]

I wish IT security people were able to differentiate between credible threats and wild paranoia.

 

[getut]

Just writing back to everyone saying I should hard pass. Let me explain. I am not a luddite. I make my living with technology. But that also better equips me to understand the security ramifications of any decision I would make. As for sideloading and hacking, I would have to do that with every EV I may potentially purchse. I will not submit my data to them no matter which EV I end up choosing so look at it like this. I am trying to find the most hackable EV as a platform to be able crack down on security wise to protect myself from the manufacturer and everyone else. I refuse to go to older vehicles, but I also refuse to allow MY vehicles to be data mined. You guys have been brainwashed into believing you either have to accept tracking with newer vehicles or drive something old. Also, sideloading is not a security risk in and of itself. Any software that I would choose to put on would be my decision as the owner of the vehicle, it is not their place to decide which software I should use. The definition of malware is software that works against the wishes of the owner. Many systems like you guys describe are malware straight from the manufacturer because the manufacturer wants you to believe they should protect the thing from the owner. That should never happen. But I am fighting these same issues if I decide to go with the silverado as well. Probably even worse becuase Chevrolet has even started encrypting the can bus to keep from having to fight 3rd parties who might try to outdo them. And that is the biggest problem with these walled gardens, once they lock you out, they start thinking of the owner of the thing as what they have to secure against. How messed up is that? These companies actually look at the owners as the security risk. F that and them. But their next step is the worst one, once they have you successfully locked out of everything, then they start artificially crippling things so they can sell that functionality back to you piecemill. These are the things that EVERYONE should be fighting like hell against, not accepting blindly.

 

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[Eury]

Just writing back to everyone saying I should hard pass. Let me explain. I am not a luddite. I make my living with technology. But that also better equips me to understand the security ramifications of any decision I would make. As for sideloading and hacking, I would have to do that with every EV I may potentially purchse. I will not submit my data to them no matter which EV I end up choosing so look at it like this. I am trying to find the most hackable EV as a platform to be able crack down on security wise to protect myself from the manufacturer and everyone else. I refuse to go to older vehicles, but I also refuse to allow MY vehicles to be data mined. You guys have been brainwashed into believing you either have to accept tracking with newer vehicles or drive something old. Also, sideloading is not a security risk in and of itself. Any software that I would choose to put on would be my decision as the owner of the vehicle, it is not their place to decide which software I should use. The definition of malware is software that works against the wishes of the owner. Many systems like you guys describe are malware straight from the manufacturer because the manufacturer wants you to believe they should protect the thing from the owner. That should never happen. But I am fighting these same issues if I decide to go with the silverado as well. Probably even worse becuase Chevrolet has even started encrypting the can bus to keep from having to fight 3rd parties who might try to outdo them. And that is the biggest problem with these walled gardens, once they lock you out, they start thinking of the owner of the thing as what they have to secure against. How messed up is that? These companies actually look at the owners as the security risk. F that and them. But their next step is the worst one, once they have you successfully locked out of everything, then they start artificially crippling things so they can sell that functionality back to you piecemill. These are the things that EVERYONE should be fighting like hell against, not accepting blindly.

Great. An EV truck still isn't for you based on your requirements.

 

[SwampNut]

An AI could easily answer the OP, tempted to ask one.

 

[McLovin]

I will not submit my data to them no matter which EV I end up choosing so look at it like this.

Curious...do you own a cell phone? Have an account on ANY social media outlet, or even a gmail account? Because, if you do...I've got some bad news for you...

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