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Electrek - Tesla and SpaceX announce $25B ‘Terafab’ chip factory — here’s why it reeks of desperation

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This is a very ambitious project, and there's simply no way it will be producing chips in volume in 2027. In the 80s I worked in an analog fab facility for a few years, and have 30+ years experience in factory build out and automation. This is another Musk pipe dream, no matter howe much money you throw at it. Nine women can't make a baby in a month.

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Terafab is a joint venture between Tesla, SpaceX, and xAI — the AI company that SpaceX recently acquired in an all-stock deal.
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Terafab is designed for an initial output of 100,000 wafer starts per month, with ambitions to scale to 1 million wafer starts per month at full capacity. For context, that full-scale target would represent roughly 70% of TSMC’s entire current global output — from a single facility operated by companies that have never fabricated a chip.
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Musk said the facility would produce between 100 and 200 billion custom AI and memory chips per year, powering Tesla’s “Full Self-Driving” software, the Cybercab robotaxi program, and the Optimus humanoid robot line. He also said millions of Optimus robots would help build and operate the facility.
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He claimed all the current fabrication facilities on Earth produce only about 2% of what he would need across all of his projects.
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Small-batch production of the AI5 is expected in 2026 with volume production projected for 2027.
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Musk said 80% of Terafab’s compute output would be directed toward space-based orbital AI satellites, with only 20% for ground-based applications. He argued that solar irradiance in space is roughly 5x greater than at Earth’s surface, and that heat rejection in vacuum makes thermal scaling viable. His conclusion: orbital AI compute could become cheaper than terrestrial alternatives within 2-3 years.
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Tesla’s CFO acknowledged that the full Terafab cost — estimated at $20-25 billion — is not yet incorporated into Tesla’s record capital expenditure plan for 2026, which already exceeds $20 billion.
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The man is a combination of two bad things: a liar, and an insane person.
 
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This statement cracks me up - " He also said millions of Optimus robots would help build and operate the facility."

What facility is has been manufacturing 100,000 Optimus robots a month so that they will be available to build TerraFab this year and next? Must have been a fantastic Ketamine binge!
 

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How is this Rivian related?? Isn't this Rivian Forum??

Btw, 9 women can have a baby in a moth, if they were impregnated 8 months before the announcement.
There are lots of threads on here regarding Rivian's competition...
 
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How is this Rivian related?? Isn't this Rivian Forum??

Btw, 9 women can have a baby in a moth, if they were impregnated 8 months before the announcement.
I hope this clearly explains it. If not, feel free to ask for clarification. :rolleyes:
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Ambitious is an understatement. Just look at how long it took TSMC (the leader in chip production) to setup and begin US production. If they succeed, it will be years before they are productive. The more immediate purpose is to keep fanning flames of hype among the cult, and continue to buoy stock price.

The man is a combination of two bad things: a liar, and an insane person.
Hubris, distorted vision and the followers who enable him on both.
 
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The robot company is separate from Rivian. Yes it was created by RJ but is separate and this is a Rivian automobile focused forum.
The mods are welcome to remove the post if they think it is out of scope.
 

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Okay I'll give you that the Tesla is a Rivian competitor in the auto space.

This is about chip fabrication facility. Before you jump about how Rivian is building its own chips, this is an auto forum and not chip fabrication forum.
 

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Okay I'll give you that the Tesla is a Rivian competitor in the auto space.

This is about chip fabrication facility. Before you jump about how Rivian is building its own chips, this is an auto forum and not chip fabrication forum.
Yes, Chips that will go into Tesla self driving BEV's amongst other things. The post is completely warranted, RELAX.
 

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Yes, Chips that will go into Tesla self driving BEV's amongst other things. The post is completely warranted, RELAX.
It's not me that need to relax. I just asked the question how relevant this click bate thread is. Most things from Electrek are just that.

People on this forum love to flame anything Tesla and Elon. I rather read and contribute about Rivian subjects.

There are so much silicon chips in ANY vehicle, appliances and just about everything these days that by your logic, any new smartphone is a Rivian competitor (i.e., CP, AA competing for in-vehicle infotainment). Your response does say you might wan to chill a bit though....
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