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All of these examples are certainly possible! Fewer of them are likely without complications of their own. None of them make as much sense from a capacity standpoint as a train. And many of them allow for the possibility that they might lead to more total cars. I'm not going to keep a city bus...

And the price of a driver base might 100% go away, but you're still going to need a labor force to keep the cars going, if nothing more than to clean them. Because a driverless taxi is going to see some shit, and they're probably going to need a little more than usual TLC, so you'll have an...

100% agree.

Indeed! There will certainly be a market for this, and you offer a perfect use case. For places like our beautiful home state with limited regional transit, this is a good solution. But in Europe, you'd take a train.

Forgive me for not restating my point yet again in agonizing detail. And thank you for agreeing with me.

I don't think Crypto is a gimmick, I think it's a con, and it's an awful use of electricity. I'm glad that you're on the right side of it, and I wish you success in that. As far as the internet, like I said, we could argue that. My first use of the proto-internet was in the late 80s on a 300...

And one more thing - as far as what the OP meant (hi!) I specifically asked if FSD is something that people are going to pay more for. When the technology evolves and it's standard on every car for no upcharge, of course people will use it. But will they use it all the time? (Alexa? Hello?) We...

You know what we were all supposed to be using ubiquitously by now? Voice control. Are any of you using voice control or speech-to-text to write to this thread?

Some of the first cars were electric, so I’m not sure how far you want to go back for that claim. I’ve only heard the most ignorant luddites describe cell phones and the internet as gimmicks, but we could argue that. And as far a cryptocurrency… you can play with that cobra yourself, my friend...

Seriously... I can't relax in a car when another HUMAN is driving that I don't massively trust. There is no way I'm closing my eyes and letting Alexa take the wheel.

:giggle: I can tell you why you don't have your flying car yet - Terrorists. They say "never say never," well I'm saying NEVER will you be able to pilot your own car freely in the sky. We already have people driving into parades and protests, what would it be like to land your car in a crowded...

On freeways, this might be true, but it will really only come into its own when the VAST majority of cars are self driving. In cities, FSD is not a magic bullet as long as there are pedestrians crossing streets. We could theoretically get rid of traffic lights and make all the cars thread...

I think it will certainly be a factor. But it depends on how the execution of that will pan out. People didn't stop buying RVs when Cruise America started renting them. I think for urban residents it will certainly be a huge factor, but (again I'm being American here) for anyone outside city...

I've seen plenty of discussion about how full self driving will be a huge game changer for car makers in the coming years, but I can't seem to get my head around how much of an impact this will be for average drivers. Setting aside robo-taxis and other commercial applications for the moment, I'm...

You need to go back and read more carefully. I'm talking about specific events we've seen, like Elon designing the Cybertruck on the fly. He did the same thing with early Tesla models. If this is how he randomizes his product plans, then it's my speculation that this contributes massively to...

"Hell" is not inevitable. It comes from the inability to plan and adapt. "Difficulty" is inevitable, but a good production system is built to deal with difficulty. I say this as the production manager for a product that made more money than Tesla last year.

Guy must really work some insane hours to keep up on his Twitter posting.

They estimate full capacity will be around 400k units per year.

Elon is always with us.?

Look at the volume!! Almost 19m already.