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Hey now, I can multi-task. :giggle:

I'm telling you man I DON'T KNOW. :giggle: ?‍♀️ I'm making Magic cards over here.

It's not for "truck people," you see....

That display is so sexy. I wonder how close it lets you follow behind a semi to maximize range...?

Not exactly a stunning endorsement. No ICE vehicle I've ever owned has been in the shop for a week and a half. But of course EVs will need some maintenance. It will be interesting to see how they fare when made by companies with better build quality.

Okay, thank you! So it does go past the window, and probably under the bed. I’ve seen that claim on The Electric Viking that there might be a “mid-gate,” like what the Chevy Avalanche had, but it would be impossible for this to work with a fold-down back wall.

Ya'll really got me going on the Cybertruck now... well, you asked for it. :giggle: I was just thinking about the bed and the power tonneau cover on the CT. (Side note, you can tell someone isn't a truck person when they try to pronounce "tonneau" :CWL: ) When the cover is closed, you can't...

Well, I agree to an extent, but another thing that comes into play is how many the company actually thinks they can produce. If Rivian lowered the price even more, then they'd just have a bigger backlog of unfilled orders. Ford made the probably sensible decision to cut off orders at 200k...

Regarding the "Base Price" optics - This is something truck buyers (and therefore, F Series buyers) understand quite well. No one thinks they're going to get anything good for the base price. Ford sells those to your local county road department. Not sure if CT buyers understand what they're...

Fair enough! This is another design that looks at least mechanically feasible, though not any more usable. I’m not sure how you are supposed to crawl over your kitchen to go to bed. But seriously, this is what I’m getting at - The Cybertruck was designed to do one thing: to look cool. That is...

...and one more thing. There's a good chance that all or most of Tesla's best designers are at Rivian and Lucid now. The design of the Cybertruck tells me that might in fact be true. They certainly don't have any real automotive designers working on this. It's not clear to me that Tesla can...

To be clear, I think that Tesla is a good company, and will continue to be a major player in EVs, but it will not maintain its majority share of the EV market when everyone is making them. They have a good head start, but they have to get their quality up from second to last if they're going to...

There are legions of Tesla (read: Musk) fans that have reserved multiple Cybertrucks just to inflate the pre-order numbers. Fercrissakes they'll all go buy Dogecoin just because he said so. They are not committed to anything but helping their TSLA positions. AND - none of those pre-order holders...

Oh certainly, but dealer networks are built around not only the traditional sales / flooring model, but also around the service model, which EVs are likely to massively disrupt. They said bookstores would never go away either, but I worked for a company that did a pretty good job at putting most...

The direct sales restrictions are so bizarre. It will be satisfying to watch the dealer networks collapse when they go.

I'll believe in the reality of CT pre-orders when they've demonstrated that they can build a windshield wiper.

Oh man... I'm still exhausted from trolling the Motortrend threads. I need a minute to recover!

Came here to post this and you beat me to it! :like:

Meanwhile, here's your TIME Magazine Person of the Year....

The guys represent me in this metaphor. :giggle: