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Because they’re California/Texas centric? Heat pumps are technically more efficient in most mild climate, but really don’t work efficiently below 25-30 degrees.

My home climate control does a hybrid heat system like that between heat pump, ptc, and gas where it figures out a combo based on an algorithm of comfort, humidity, and cost.

Daimler tried to do that in the early 2000s with Chrysler and realized that material cost is a large part of the cost of a vehicle. Even when they cheapened the interior to super hard thin plastics with mold flashings showing and such, they never really got the cost out to the extent that they...

Around the same time, EM also promised 500 miles on the Plaid Model S. Currently it's rated at 396 mi based on EPA tests, and people are reporting sub 350 mile real life ranges. EM is the master of hyperbole.

The part that's hard to reconcile is the only 15k in 2022. I'm definitely not even close to the first 15k of preorders, but I have a July-Sep 2022 delivery date for my R1S LE right now.

Subaru Outback Turbo - $36k VW GTI - $35k Mercedes E class wagon - $89k Mercedes GLS450 - $95k All turned out totally fine. You just need to research the heck out of everything. It doesn't hurt that I'm purchasing cars new with warranty, so that makes it easy. I'm personally not too...

I don't think people should be too worried about this. Plenty of people have driven, reviewed, and provided details about the vehicle ad nauseam. The only thing missing is the charge curve details. With that stated, once that's detailed (which i guarantee it will soon, as they have to...

This is an early adopter car. If you're concerned, it's prudent to wait a few years. On the flip side, I have 2 on preorder....because YOLO?

Forecast vs Actuals, as we call it

I’ve shown myself willing to pay for a 6 figure wagon, and might do so again. For wagon fans, this car alone is seriously lustworthy.

My last 2 cars were purchased never driven, never tested, sight unseen. The 2 cars before were test driven, but purchased sight unseen. It's not as scary as people make it out to be.

That’s my neighborhood!

Nothing out there in Marysville?

I think we didn't get it because they're targeting R1T folks first. Which sucks just a touch. But oh well.

None for me either. Oh well. Anyone wanna give me a ride? ;)

I think this is the key point. They provided. Ample warning that this is going to be the only window where you can confirm purchase. If you miss the boat you miss the boat

It's an option that you have to turn on and off. It was shown in the interior video by the UX guy

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/11/10/amazon-backed-ev-start-up-rivian-set-to-go-public-.html "The electric vehicle maker's stock is indicated to open at $125 a share, implying a valuation of as much as $106.6 billion and a 60% pop from its IPO price of $78 a share." Implied 125/share start of trade

I just pulled the trigger. Not the worst and most pointless purchase I've made, but oh well. It's like playing Vegas.

I think a bunch of us just got called out in this video. ?