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1. No, the crappy laws are not Rivian's fault, obviously. 2. Audi is selling EV's at their dealer in ABQ. Ford is selling EV's at their dealers in ABQ and Santa Fe. etc. It's not EV vs ICE. 3. I'm not normalizing anything. Just pointing out that there is a solution that Rivian is not taking...

Actually my gripe is with Rivian AND our state legislators. These laws suck, but they actually don't need to be changed for Rivian to set up here and start selling/servicing vehicles. As a stockholder I think they are missing out on a pretty large potential market by not doing so. NM is a huge...

Tesla now has 2 stores/service centers in New Mexico, both on Tribal land. The first is near Santa Fe and the latest one is near Albuquerque. Meanwhile Rivian refuses to deliver vehicles in NM and seemingly has no plans to open a service center here...

There are a number of Rivians in NM, although they are not delivering here anymore due to lack of a service center. No word from Rivian on when or if that might change - my guess is it will be a year or two at least. There is a NM Rivian discord group and an occasional meetup in ABQ. There is...

Thanks for that clarification - it all makes a lot more sense now.

I'm also in Santa Fe and have not received a delivery estimate. I'm not expecting one with this update either, since as far as I can tell there are still no plans for a service center in NM. There are a number of Rivians in NM, and probably a few in Santa Fe but those were mostly delivered...

Still processing in NM...

I'm in New Mexico (no service center, crappy laws, etc), Jan 22 R1S preorder and have never had a delivery window. Still no delivery window after this non-upate. Looks like I'm looking at end of 2024 at the earliest, maybe later, maybe never? Glad my new 4Runner should be here in a week or so...

Now they are seriously just F#$king with us.

Are they as good at building vehicles as they are at not answering questions?

100% agree with this. Hopefully this is just the start of the EV price wars and real competition heating up. Should be the end of ADM on all other EV's as well.

Ioniq 5 and Audi Q4 E-tron are going to have a hard time competing in the US without a big price cut, as they are not eligible for the tax credit until they can start building them in the US. After the price cuts and tax credit the Model Y looks like a much better value than either of these...

That actually wasn't the question. The question was:

For us $79K (or $71.5K after tax credit) is a stretch, but seemed like a good value for a fully electric, off-road capable SUV that would potentially save us around $20K in gas over 10 years compared to an ICE SUV. We have solar panels with extra capacity, so charging at home would be...

Still waiting for the R1S at the pre-march pricing, with no delivery estimate - likely 2024 or even 2025. It's a good deal at the original price, especially with the tax credit. But the longer it takes to actually get one the more competition it will have and the greater the chance that we'll...

Looks like they still have nothing planned for New Mexico either...which I figured was the case, but is still a bummer. On the plus side we won't have to worry about paying for any subscriptions for at least a year or two...

Congrats on getting your truck Gavin!

Well that's about as close as you can cut it!

Yes, all of us in NM are aware of the crappy law. This law however does not apply on Pueblo land, which there is a crap-ton of in NM. Tesla figured this out and opened a service center on Pueblo land near Santa Fe. There are now Teslas everywhere here. Rivian is well aware of this and hasn't...

No news, but they are supposedly going to update us in January sometime. Likely the very end of January as that is their M.O. My best guess is that a service center in NM is at the very bottom of their priority list, so if it happens it will be 2-3 years from now, best case. Also the charging...