Think of the positives; inefficient EV like the Hummer will demand more charger locations. If everyone was rocking Lucid Air or Tesla Model S, the locations could be 400 miles away from each other.
I had a Model S with a similar dent in the passenger door. Tesla notified me before pickup and gave me the option to have it fixed now, or at my leisure. I had it fixed later.
If resale of a 80k truck is a concern, I would get it fixed. You may not care. But the buyer of your vehicle will...
You are the most pro-CCS form factor individual I have ever run into. When someone likes something that much, I just have to understand that not everyone can be right ;)
Regardless of CCS station count, if Tesla opened up their network tomorrow (or in 6 months) - and it required a Tesla to CCS...
The problem is the design. It is a bulky, physically large - larger than it needs to be - connector.
Yes, CCS chargers are less reliable. Yes CCS vehicle owners hate them. But that is a different topic altogether.
At this point, CCS is old tech. Designed in 2011. USB has went thru several...
I think we're entering a prolonged dongle phase. Just like with tech - we had Ps/2 and serial ports. Parallel ports. From CGA to VGA to HDMI to displayport to USB-C.
In the years to come, CCS might be what the charger has, but the EV's won't be using that form factor. They will be on CCS 2.0...
If CCS won, then I don't know what losing is. Just taking a moment to read peoples comments on this thread; it sure doesn't sound like a winner to me.
IMO, CCS hasn't won, until the Tesla network is seen as inferior.
Once again, I share the same goals as y'all. Getting Round in a R1S. I just...
My opinion can seem like a very defeatist viewpoint. But I share the same goals as y'all; getting around in an EV
Selfishly, I will support TPC, just because I know it works, and I don't have to play games. From a usability, design, performance, reliability perspective...it just can't be beat -...
Tesla should license their tech. License it so that EV charging brands can build TPC chargers, and EV manufacturers can build cars with TPC charging.
I am of the mindset that TPC is better than CCS. CCS has many challenges that Tesla has already solved.
CCS connector is massive. It is a...
Totally right. I don't like to include Europe or Asia in the discussion, given they have their own standards (CCS in Europe is not the same as USA).
Speaking purely from a solution for North America; I would still go with Tesla, and Tesla licensed charging tech.
E.g. - no one has to even use...
Without Tesla plug-n-charge capabilities, this is one of the only solutions.
I think the only alternative solution is to have credit card readers at each station. This would increase manufacturing costs and increase complexity/points of failure. But it would offer a similar experience to what...
I’ve seen two real R1T owned by Rivian employees. One was actually used like a work/play truck, and it had a cracked windshield. The other has probably never ventured off pavement and did not have a window crack/chip.
Never thought about it, until this thread.
Totally agree. Tesla can just keep expanding the network vs. having to redo literally every charger they have ever installed.
Or look at it different; you and I pay for adapters. Tesla pays for rebuilding the superchargers.
Goes without saying; Tesla ain't a charity.
Agree. This is why non-Tesla branded adapters (the same adapters that have existed for a while) wouldn't work. This is also why I am watching how fast Tesla can bring these CCS to Tesla adapters to North America. If it takes 12 months for them to bring it to NA, then a Tesla to CCS adapter would...
It is important to distinguish between consistency vs. station up/down/broken vs. bad charging experiences/unreliable. On all of these measures; Tesla still is the gold standard.
Consistency = charge curves, payment authorization process, consistent pricing
Bad charging experience/unreliable =...
Devil's advocate; Tesla makes a CCS to Tesla adapter, for Tesla vehicles to charge at CCS stations. This adapter is only available in South Korea. People speculate the reason Tesla has not made this (insanely popular) adapter available outside South Korea is the leadtime/component availability...
Ultra reliable. The gold standard. The standard to which everything else will be judged. Never a doubt about the SC functioning. Not only is it reliable, but it is consistently reliable and a consistent experience. Tesla makes the vehicle, they make the chargers. There is no guesswork, it just...
Fun fact; Between Buffalo NY and Shanghai factory, Tesla can manufacture more than 25,000 superchargers/year.
It remains to be seen on the DCFC front. Lot of stalled installs across the country. I have no doubt that the dozen+ DCFC manufacturers can manufacture more chargers than Tesla's 25k...