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I will likely put $40kish down on the R2 LE even though I have the cash to just pay for it outright. Interest gains (HYSA or in the market) vs. interest paid on something like a $20k loan is immaterial to me. You can't guarantee market returns especially when we are at an all time high...

If you finance $55,000 of a $60,000 car...basically financial suicide.

Yeah that basically how I feel and how I see the charging infrastructure world myself. We have a bunch of random 2 stallers around from random brands that probably do 800v. But it’s 2 freaking stalls. Take EA for example. They have 800v charging but they don’t have a lot of stalls, the stalls...

Most of the stuff you see on PlugShare isn’t actually 150kW; it’s 200 amp limited crap. And if it’s only 150kW well that provides no better charging than 400v does. SC, NC, and VA that I travel a lot there is nothing reliable but Tesla, Rivian, and now IONNA. Sure there are random options...

Must be a west coast thing. ChargePoint and EA are an absolute joke here in the southeast. Absolute trash chargers. EA put their “latest and greatest gen chargers” near me and they never work. Always offline. ChargePoint is mostly L2s and if you do find a DCFC they’re 62.5 kW, always broken, and...

It won’t take longer than an R2 I don’t think, it just won’t be faster. You’re right I can’t think of any major 800v chargers out there today though. Tesla has a few with their new V4 cabinets slowly appearing but there’s only a handful today. Like literally a handful. Maybe EA has a few? But...

Honestly this is one of the cost cuts I actually am fine with. I get so annoyed washing my Tesla and the freaking charge port door always opens. Doesn’t like to be manually shut either, have to use the app. It’s just doesn’t need to be powered IMO. Give me a manual charge port door like a...

This one actually doesn’t make sense to me bc they’re required in Europe. So they’ll switch them back? Weird.

Sorry, I live in the southeast and was more thinking about mountain trails and off road stuff. I try not to ever think about snow in my life haha. Rivian worked with BF Goodrich for their own OEM version, likely for better range and NVH. I would rather have AS too but not at the expense of...

Again, who said they don’t? I would think they do. Did someone buy one in those states recently and Rivian said no you don’t get a charger?

Who said it didn’t?

Yeah in general deductions don’t amount to much, but tax credits are real dollars.

Yeah it’s only like a few hundred dollars. If you financed the entire R2 for $60k at 5% interest you pay $3,000 a year in interest. $3,000 x 22% tax bracket = $660 savings on your taxes And again that’s if you financed the ENTIRE $60,000 purchase price. Won’t be anywhere near that most likely...

That’s not a tax credit, it’s an interest deduction like they have for home mortgage interest. VERY different.

$10,000 tax credit where? For who?

I'm sure you can edit your order still, if you wanted to of course.

The CARB rule only came into effect for 2026 model year.

85% of their preorders are for EREV, but I agree with you.

I've seen this and am also curious. Scout is right here in South Carolina where I live and to me it seems very similar to Rivian, just rugged-ish. We know it'll have very similar software due to the joint venture with VW also. LATE 2028 for the SUV and 2030 or so for the pickup. LONGGGG way...

Bingo. Model Y Performance is $57,990, same as R2 Performance, and the cheapest Tesla lease rate is $889 a month with $0 down (36/10k). Not including whatever fees and taxes to add on to that monthly rate. It is abundantly clear Rivian pricing is matching Tesla everywhere they can.