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Just to clarify what you said about increase wheel width? is it sticking out compared to the stock 21"? I can't tell much from all the pictures. I will wait on your efficiency report of the defender tires. If it is the same as the 21", I will definitely switch as well. The owner of Atomic wheels think it would be better than 21" which I think very possible since my lifetime is at 2.3.I think the load rating on the 275/60/20 M/S2 is 116, but if not DT didn't raise any fuss. So far, efficiency has been lower than what I was getting on stock 21s, but there's a big asterisk there as I got them mounted right before uncharacteristically cold weather here and I've only driven on them for two days. I don't think I will be able to provide a realistic comparison on efficiency for a few weeks as these will need to wear in before it's a fair comparison. The two concerns that I have for efficiency are the increased wheel width and its effect on aero and the Defender tires potentially being stickier, increasing rolling resistance. Overall this wheel/tire combo is about 12 pounds lighter than stock per wheel, which should help but the jury is out whether it is enough to offset the other differences.
These wheels are 9" wide compared to 8.5" for the stock wheels. The offset is -8mm compared to stock, which if I calculated correctly equates to .3". As I understand it, that means this wheels will stick out about .2" farther than the stock wheels. That's a very small amount, but with the way aero works it still could have an impact.Just to clarify what you said about increase wheel width? is it sticking out compared to the stock 21"? I can't tell much from all the pictures. I will wait on your efficiency report of the defender tires. If it is the same as the 21", I will definitely switch as well. The owner of Atomic wheels think it would be better than 21" which I think very possible since my lifetime is at 2.3.
These wheels are 9" wide compared to 8.5" for the stock wheels. The offset is -8mm compared to stock, which if I calculated correctly equates to .3". As I understand it, that means this wheels will stick out about .2" farther than the stock wheels. That's a very small amount, but with the way aero works it still could have an impact.
The important thing here - tires. If you switch from 21' to [AW10] with road tires, not when with AT.Just to clarify what you said about increase wheel width? is it sticking out compared to the stock 21"? I can't tell much from all the pictures. I will wait on your efficiency report of the defender tires. If it is the same as the 21", I will definitely switch as well. The owner of Atomic wheels think it would be better than 21" which I think very possible since my lifetime is at 2.3.
Thank you for doing the testThe important thing here - tires. If you switch from 21' to [AW10] with road tires, not when with AT.
AT and MT tires are aggressive and there is almost nothing that can be done efficiency-wise, only change tires.
We are going to compare OEM Black 20s with OEM Pirelli vs [AW10] with OEM Pirelli tomorrow, and later vs [AW10] with 275/60R-20 MICHELIN DEFENDER LTX M/S2 XL. It will show everything.
Sorry I'm slow on the response here. They are just some lug nuts that Discount Tire had available, and for which they did not charge me anything: West Coast Wheel Accessories Spline Install Kit 23, No. 80385. https://www.discounttire.com/buy-ac...sory-wheel-install-kit/p/80385?storeCode=1097What lugnuts?
Thank you for posting pictures!Moving from factory 21, installed Satin Black with Michelin Defender Platinum. Having 285/60r20 on top of 8mm less offset make the tire fit just about flush with the wheel well - gorgeous to my eye.
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Man. This looks better than the 275/60/20 defender ms/2Moving from factory 21, installed Satin Black with Michelin Defender Platinum. Having 285/60r20 on top of 8mm less offset make the tire fit just about flush with the wheel well - gorgeous to my eye.
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I know this is important metric for some, but I don't usually keep statistic while driving. Having said that, my very unscientific efficiency compared to OE21 is about 7% less (2.2m/kW). This is actually better than what was expected mainly due to my tire size and Platinum being a heavy LT tire with 126 index. Also the thread pattern of Platinum is not truly geared toward street efficiency.Thank you for posting pictures!
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Absolutely, we do understand not everyone is focused on efficiencyI know this is important metric for some, but I don't usually keep statistic while driving. Having said that, my very unscientific efficiency compared to OE21 is about 7% less (2.2m/kW). This is actually better than what was expected mainly due to my tire size and Platinum being a heavy LT tire with 126 index. Also the thread pattern of Platinum is not truly geared toward street efficiency.