Bluetooth Persistence and the lack of on/off switch

[Worthenj]

I know the topic has been covered in other threads but I'd like to understand the use case I am missing.... Is there any instance when I am actively utilizing my bluetooth connection when I park my truck, where I wouldn't want the bluetooth to pause or disconnect? Somewhere in the design calculus here an engineer has surely come up with some valid case to keep the connection and continue playing whatever program is streaming when I exit the truck... Im however, can't think of one. Community, please educate me....

1. When listening to a program streaming off my phone, it'd be nice if the truck paused the program when I exited. This is how every other vehicle behaves perhaps with the exception of newer BMWs. Again, if I'm missing something, please tell me.

2. When I exit the vehicle actively on a phone call, it is beyond frustrating I can't continue my conversation until the truck "lets go" and locks itself because I've walked the right distance away. In just about every other vehicle, bluetooth seamlessly lets go and automatically switches my phone back to handset. Does this bother just me? I use the truck for work and am frequently on my phone when I park.

I'v had the truck nearly 5K miles now and this is the single biggest day-to-day frustration with my truck.

If the answer is ditch PAAK and go to fob only, that seems a step backwards too... Perhaps if I understood the design intention here, I could wrap my head around the way this functions..... maybe..... big maybe....

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[txtravwill]

1. I think depends on your phone. Anything I stream via BT pauses when I leave the truck, or I hit pause on steering wheel to pause it sooner. But it is there in the same spot when I return from a store or gym, etc.
2. You gotta do this on your phone is all, change the audio output on it. I don't know of any car that immediately lets go very well of a call unless its an older one. Even an older GMC/Ford, when you park and hit the off button, keeps accessories and the phone connected via BT until ya get out and close the door. Definitely sooner than the walk away locking of course. I just xfer it on my phone and get out quick.
3. Switching to fob won't really fixed either item above. It still delays locking/full shut off until you get a bit away if you have walk away lock on.

 

[Worthenj]

1. I think depends on your phone. Anything I stream via BT pauses when I leave the truck, or I hit pause on steering wheel to pause it sooner. But it is there in the same spot when I return from a store or gym, etc.
2. You gotta do this on your phone is all, change the audio output on it. I don't know of any car that immediately lets go very well of a call unless its an older one. Even an older GMC/Ford, when you park and hit the off button, keeps accessories and the phone connected via BT until ya get out and close the door. Definitely sooner than the walk away locking of course. I just xfer it on my phone and get out quick.
3. Switching to fob won't really fixed either item above. It still delays locking/full shut off until you get a bit away if you have walk away lock on.

1. When listening to a podcast (for instance), my phone keeps playing the program through the truck until bluetooth lets go. In other words, not until I wave walked away from the truck and it locks.
2. I don't have to manually change to handset on my phone in any of my other vehicles when I park unless I am leaving the car running because someone is maybe staying in the car while I run into a store.. When I park any other car and the door opens, the call automatically switches to handset because bluetooth has "let go." (I have owned 50+ cars in the "bluetooth" era)
3. Agreed.

 

[iforbes]

These discussions need details.
Specifically, what phone are you using?

my iPhone (iOS 16.6) stops Bluetooth streaming when I close the door. I can restart (by hitting play on the trucks main screen) when I get back in.

it would be nice if it just started automagically.

 

[Destreyf]

I generally have the same behavior has @iforbes with my Pixel 7, the audio keeps playing until the door shuts, at which point it immediately pauses.

I have had my phone re-connect to the truck in the garage though and it resumed where it had left off even though I was not seated in the truck.

It would be nice if when the driver left the seat it would stop playing, maybe a prompt on the center display can come up asking to resume, or just hitting the play icon on the player to resume in the event the phone was left in the car with a passenger (partner, child, etc), ideally this would be a configurable behavior of some sort.

 

[Worthenj]

I generally have the same behavior has @iforbes with my Pixel 7, the audio keeps playing until the door shuts, at which point it immediately pauses.

I have had my phone re-connect to the truck in the garage though and it resumed where it had left off even though I was not seated in the truck.

It would be nice if when the driver left the seat it would stop playing, maybe a prompt on the center display can come up asking to resume, or just hitting the play icon on the player to resume in the event the phone was left in the car with a passenger (partner, child, etc), ideally this would be a configurable behavior of some sort.

a prompt? Like an on/off button?

These discussions need details.
Specifically, what phone are you using?

my iPhone (iOS 16.6) stops Bluetooth streaming when I close the door. I can restart (by hitting play on the trucks main screen) when I get back in.

it would be nice if it just started automagically.

I'm on an iPhone 14 Pro but it really is not a function of the phone so much as how/when the vehicle terminates bluetooth.. Even disconnecting at "door close" it's too long for practical purposes. Granted most cars have an on/off button to tell the infotainment your departure intentions but the BT drop happens on just about every other car literally at the pull of the interior door handle.

 

[SSteveEV]

"hold on a sec I need to plug in."-me 30 min ago.

Didn't close the door behind me so maybe that could be the loophole trigger to end the connection for you?

 

[Rivinski]

I have owned 50+ cars in the "bluetooth" era

You’ve owned 3-5 cars a year since Bluetooth phones connected to OEM radios? And they all performed the exact same? ?
I’m on calls every day for work when driving and I get out and switch on my phone. Not a big deal. Could Rivian disconnect Bluetooth after shifting to park and your butt is off the seat? Sure, and they probably will one day. Doesn’t seem like a high priority to me.

 

[Worthenj]

Yes, I have indeed starting with my 2007 E63 MBZ.... and yes, as I mentioned in my post, all but the most recent BMW’s release Bluetooth on exit. I have also rented countless vehicles in that time and can’t think of a single example that held on to my Bluetooth connection at exit..

Sure it’s not a priority.. but a simple fix that frustrates someone who primarily uses their truck as a mobile office.. at scale, I won’t be alone.

 

[Donald Stanfield]

My phone cuts back in the second I close the door. In fact it's one of the quickest and most seamless BT phone experiences I've had in any vehicle. Granted I only get a new one every couple years I don't change them like underwear as apparently OP does.

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