Chevron (On the run)

[Epicloop]

Any reason the Lightning charges @a 50% higher rate (123kw/h vs 82 kw/h) than the Rivian at the Chevron chargers. I thought the Rivian had a higher charge rate capability?

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[ads75]

What state of charge were they at? Were they the same? Or did you just notice numbers as you were walking by? Also possible a charger wasn't working properly.

 

[cbrcanuck]

I've generally gotten 150 kW at the Chevron stations. The last couple I tried were down to 50 though. But as stated above, so many variables.

 

[Mobius1]

Any reason the Lightning charges @a 50% higher rate (123kw/h vs 82 kw/h) than the Rivian at the Chevron chargers. I thought the Rivian had a higher charge rate capability?

Discrimination!!

 

[Mobius1]

Honestly, I agree with the others, there are a lot of variables in play.

 

[Epicloop]

So any variables in the situation it is not worth even worrying about.

Personally I am not a fan of spending 50% more time charging than they do.

What state of charge were they at? Were they the same? Or did you just notice numbers as you were walking by? Also possible a charger wasn't working properly.

Many different instances and between 20-80%SOC same as me. Countless times charging for me & always the same 74-82kw/h. Lightning's always above 120kw/h.
30+ visits to these chargers so quite familiar with the variables.

I've generally gotten 150 kW at the Chevron stations. The last couple I tried were down to 50 though.

Is this in B.C. , what cities? They drop to or below 50kw/h over 80% SOC or when the unit gets low on capacity.

Honestly, I agree with the others, there are a lot of variables in play.

The only variable I see is the Lightning charging 50% faster than my Rivian.

 

[MountainBikeDude]

The chargers are neat, but for lack of a better word, are a stupid design. They are dual 80kw outlets in a single charger, that diverts one outlet, to ramp up the power to a single outlet if it asks for it. I've had my truck max it out twice, but the units are consistently offline, or are in power conservation mode.

They have a built in 125 kWh battery that pulls power from the grid slowly, and when vehicles charge, it ups the output by supplementing it with the onboard battery. Unfortunately, when the battery is depleted, they kick over to charge their battery, and de-rate vehicle charging to 15kW until the chargers battery has sufficient power again. Great for low use areas, otherwise they de-rate often.

I'm not sure what the issue is with Rivians not requesting full power, I ran into this twice now, and think the charger isn't reading the Rivians power request correctly.

Personally, the only reason I use them is because they are currently free, otherwise, not a huge fan of the experience.

 

[cbrcanuck]

Yup, have seen 150 in North Van (Lonsdale) a few times and Abbotsford. Have seen the 17 kW when derated in North Van, Merritt Abbotsford and Penticton. I haven’t used one in months though. It was mostly back in the spring.

 

[Epicloop]

The chargers are neat, but for lack of a better word, are a stupid design. They are dual 80kw outlets in a single charger, that diverts one outlet, to ramp up the power to a single outlet if it asks for it. I've had my truck max it out twice, but the units are consistently offline, or are in power conservation mode.

They have a built in 125 kWh battery that pulls power from the grid slowly, and when vehicles charge, it ups the output by supplementing it with the onboard battery. Unfortunately, when the battery is depleted, they kick over to charge their battery, and de-rate vehicle charging to 15kW until the chargers battery has sufficient power again. Great for low use areas, otherwise they de-rate often.

I'm not sure what the issue is with Rivians not requesting full power, I ran into this twice now, and think the charger isn't reading the Rivians power request correctly.

Personally, the only reason I use them is because they are currently free, otherwise, not a huge fan of the experience.

I was told by the technician's that they had a 200kwh pack but either way its a less than ideal design. I guess it is easier on the grid. I have had less issues in the mornings.
I might send them a message to sort out this issue of slower Rivian charging.

Currently its this free 80kw/h charging is working out ok for my out of town trips but 120kw/r would be much better.

 

[MountainBikeDude]

I was told by the technician's that they had a 200kwh pack but either way its a less than ideal design. I guess it is easier on the grid. I have had less issues in the mornings.
I might send them a message to sort out this issue of slower Rivian charging.

Currently its this free 80kw/h charging is working out ok for my out of town trips but 120kw/r would be much better.

I couldn't remember the exact size of the battery, but remember it being roughly the same as the Rivians within a few kWh. The electricians kept having issues with the station depleting the battery, and if it got too low, rather than charging, it would shut down to protect the battery, and become completely inoperable until reset in person, only to do it again a couple days later.

Painful.

 

[Mobius1]

Personally I am not a fan of spending 50% more time charging than they do.

Many different instances and between 20-80%SOC same as me. Countless times charging for me & always the same 74-82kw/h. Lightning's always above 120kw/h.
30+ visits to these chargers so quite familiar with the variables.

Is this in B.C. , what cities? They drop to or below 50kw/h over 80% SOC or when the unit gets low on capacity.

The only variable I see is the Lightning charging 50% faster than my Rivian.

I get 4 different charge speeds at the 4 EA chargers closest to my house and different models and types of cars are getting different rates than I am as we move around trying to find the best rate Are the chargers what is causing it or the different models/types of cars?

 

[Zoidz]

I get 4 different charge speeds at the 4 EA chargers closest to my house and different models and types of cars are getting different rates than I am as we move around trying to find the best rate Are the chargers what is causing it or the different models/types of cars?

Yes, all of the above, and more.

 

[Blueassassin]

Wait this not a DC fast charger its an 80A right? We have these at wok the lightning can take a full 80A but the rivian is limited to 48A max. Not sure why but it is. The Rivian can DC fast charge faster but the lightning can charge faster at the level 2 charger.

 

[MountainBikeDude]

Wait this not a DC fast charger its an 80A right? We have these at wok the lightning can take a full 80A but the rivian is limited to 48A max. Not sure why but it is. The Rivian can DC fast charge faster but the lightning can charge faster at the level 2 charger.

It's a DCFC. the stations in question have a low amperage limitation (Rivian likes the Amps) but also is having issue kicking over the second relay to double the output when a Rivian is connected. So you max out at 80kW speeds on a station thats rated for 200kW (really 160kW for a Rivian due to the amp limit)

 

[nothinglimited]

These are Freewire DCFCs with battery storage?

https://freewiretech.com/freewire-a...hicle-drivers-across-british-columbia-canada/

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