Dragy and timed runs - post your data here

[DayTripping]

You bought a Rivian for the race track/drag strip?

Are you going to start modifying it to get faster times? Special tires, special shocks, add some aerodynamic parts?

Or are you just seeing how fast they all go?

For me, a little bit of all of the above. I did buy Atomic wheels to improve to reduce its unsprung weight which will improve its dynamics. I am working on aerodynamics to clean stuff up around some of the window and sunroof gaps and trim issues. Far worse than my recent Teslas TBH.

I do want a baseline how they typically should run. That way I'll also know when something is off.

I like quick cars, and I can not lie... There is a certain level of acceleration that keeps me interested. That happens to be sub 4 seconds 0-60. I'll admit I am sort of a performance junkie, that applies to trucks too. I don't think I am the only one.

I had an impromptu tete' a tete' on the street with a modified supercharged F150 while in my Plaid and it clearly would have pulled my R1T. It was very quick, mostly stock-looking (other than the oversized tires), and quiet. Quite impressive, honestly.

For a 7k truck, it is pretty impressive. I also want to see what it takes to reach Rivian's claimed times. Or did they fib and have a one-off custom built in-house test mule that is the only one that can turn their claimed numbers.

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[good2go]

For me, a little bit of all of the above. I did buy Atomic wheels to improve to reduce its unsprung weight which will improve its dynamics. I am working on aerodynamics to clean stuff up around some of the window and sunroof gaps and trim issues. Far worse than my recent Teslas TBH.

I do want a baseline how they typically should run. That way I'll also know when something is off.

I like quick cars, and I can not lie... There is a certain level of acceleration that keeps me interested. That happens to be sub 4 seconds 0-60. I'll admit I am sort of a performance junkie, that applies to trucks too. I don't think I am the only one.

I had an impromptu tete' a tete' on the street with a modified supercharged F150 while in my Plaid and it clearly would have pulled my R1T. It was very quick, mostly stock-looking (other than the oversized tires), and quiet. Quite impressive, honestly.

For a 7k truck, it is pretty impressive. I also want to see what it takes to reach Rivian's claimed times. Or did they fib and have a one-off custom built in-house test mule that is the only one that can turn their claimed numbers.

I get it. I personally think the race track is the most fun you can legally have. I like accelerating, braking, and driving. I often have people ask me how fast my car goes 0 to 60. I normally respond that I’m just shifting out of second gear at 60 and I enjoy all the gears.

 

[DayTripping]

Here are the previous C/D test results I posted in another thread. The other test had a lot quicker truck to 100 and 2 tenths in the 1/4. It was also quicker 30-50 and 50-70.

Here are others I found on a long term review.

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[JonW716]

Sold my 24 R1S DMP Large 3 weeks ago, the week before I did a few runs with my buddy's draggy at 80% SOC and roughly 70-75 degrees ambient temperature. The runs were back to back and numbers were about 3.9-4.2 0-60, 12.2-12.5 1/4 mile, runs were lower launching as opposed to just flooring it. Impressive for a heavy truck regardless

 

[DayTripping]

Sold my 24 R1S DMP Large 3 weeks ago, the week before I did a few runs with my buddy's draggy at 80% SOC and roughly 70-75 degrees ambient temperature. The runs were back to back and numbers were about 3.9-4.2 0-60, 12.2-12.5 1/4 mile, runs were lower launching as opposed to just flooring it. Impressive for a heavy truck regardless

Thanks for sharing. Do you recall if that was that with or without rollout?

 

[JonW716]

Thanks for sharing. Do you recall if that was that with or without rollout?

Was flooring it from a stop and launching from a stop, launch was slightly better in the Rivian.

 

[DayTripping]

Getting it dialed in. I charged for a few hours at 40 amp to get the battery warmer before running. I left the house at 82F for the battery. I went with suspension on soft. My first hit was very solid with a lot of wheelspin off the line front and rear. It felt very good but the surface was really slick.

I did a few more runs and could feel it starting to come together. The 5-60 mph time was 3.17. I had one that was 3.14 which should have translated into an even better 0-60 time but for some reason it didn't capture that. That could have been a 3.25 or 3.26 run for sure. I felt just a touch of wheelspin off the line and pulled really hard.

A few runs helped warm the tires and I found a better section of road for my fast runs. This thing is finally starting to get fun. It will take a really fast ICE car to beat it on the street once you get it dialed in. I can now run heads up with a first gen Model 3 performance and beat most any new S that isn't a Plaid or Ludicrous to 60 on the street.

Also ran my personal best of 50-70 at 1.77 later this morning. I was at 61% SoC. The truck was running pretty good today. That puts me .4 seconds better than what Car and Driver did.

As for wheels, I think i am defying the conventional thinking that 22's are the way to go. I think with some more test and tuning and a higher SoC, I could probably shave off another tenth even on the street. That would put me the 2nd fastest on Dragy. Currently, I am the fastest on 21's and at a much lower SoC compared to everyone else.

Vehicle: 2023 R1T QM large pack
Cargo/weight: About 450 pounds, including driver
SW: 2024.47.01
Temps: 63F
Winds: 6 mph crosswind off the nose
Battery Temps: 90F
Motor Temps (Front/Rear): 155F/185F
DA: 887'
Prepped surface: No
Wheels/tires: Factory 21" with factory Pirelli Scorpion AS @ 48 PSI
State of Charge (SoC): 65%
Mode: Sport
Suspension: Low
Firmness: Soft
Traction control (High/Med/Off): OFF

 

[DayTripping]

For reference, my 50-90 times previously were at 4.82 seconds in either sport or AP. Today I ran 4.57 on an uphill slope. Running in the return direction, I ran 4.34. So, let's call it 4.46. So, at least 3 tenths quicker and almost 4 tenths. That is a pretty solid improvement.

Here are the conditions and truck parameters.

Vehicle: 2023 R1T QM large pack
Cargo/weight: About 450 pounds, including driver
SW: 2024.47.01
Temps: 63F
Winds: 6 mph crosswind off the nose
Battery Temps: 97F
Motor Temps (Front/Rear): 185F/217F
DA: 1095'
Prepped surface: No
Wheels/tires: Factory 21" with factory Pirelli Scorpion AS @ 48 PSI
State of Charge (SoC): 61%
Mode: Sport
Suspension: Low
Firmness: Soft
Traction control (High/Med/Off): OFF

 

[DayTripping]

Just chipping away at the times. As for Dragy, I now have the quickest times for a non-prepped surface on Dragy. I am less than a tenth of on 0-60 and just over a tenth behind in the 1/8th. That truck was run on the track, fully charged, and had a totally prepped surface. I was at 72% SoC and battery temps were 79F. I am still rolling on 21's, and so far, they seem to be the fastest on the street. I improved upon my 50-90 time and now at 4.31.

Following are my 0-60 runs and 1/8th mile. I had a headwind on both. Very solid times considering the SoC, on the road and battery temps. I was getting a lot of wheel spin at launch from the rear and front was really starting to spin about 30-50 mph. Heck, I could go along at 40 mph and stab the throttle and it would break the tires loose.

My combined 30-70 time is 2.79 seconds. Compare that the C/D time slips I posted earlier of 3.8 and the best I saw from them was 3.6. So I am at a minimum .8 seconds better 30-70 mph which is huge. For reference, their test of the PDM was 4.1 seconds 0-60.

A solid 3.22 run without rollout. Playing the rollout games, it 3.07. That would have beaten my 2022 (refreshed) Model S Long Range.

The 1/8th mile was one of the few I could run almost to completion. I had to let off right at the end and brake, unfortunately. A 7.38 omitting rollout at 90.73 is pretty good. My S long range would have pipped it just at the end. It would have been a very tight race. I am consistently in the 1.70's for 60' times. My best was 1.68 a few days ago on a better surface.

 

[bmedfo1]

This was at Atco drag strip. True time matched draggy exactly

 

[DayTripping]

I've been reviewing my times for my other Teslas for comparison with my R1T qm. Basically my truck would slot between a Gen1 (2018-2023) Tesla Model 3 performance (M3P) and a Gen2 Highland (2024+) Model 3 Performance for most any acceleration metrics 0-90 mph. The top speed limiter of the Gen1 R1 hampers it in the 1/4 so either Tesla M3P will beat it in the 1/4.

The R1T is noticeably quicker in the 30-90 range than the Gen1 M3P. Conversely the Highland M3P It will absolutely pull the R1T quad. One plus to the R1T is given its heavier weight, adding a passenger or some load has less impact on it than the Tesla. Reduction of the SoC seems to impact the Rivian less too. Performance falls off, but not as quickly as the Teslas. Though a Highland M3P at even 50% charge will run away from a Gen1 R1T quad at a high SoC. That car is a performance bargain like the Plaid but at a more affordable price point.

All in all pretty solid performance. Now that I have the data, my early thoughts that the performance fell off a bit (compared to its 0-60 times) are spot on. It would curious to see if they ever bring launch mode to the Gen1 R1T's what the impact it might make. I'd love to see them do it but I doubt they will.

Tonight and all next week the temps are supposed to dip well below freezing. Unlikely to get any more runs in before the real cold sets in. The surface traction will be even worse than the 60's I was running on. So unlikely to get any meaningful runs in before spring. I may run some in the cold just for fun. I did try one right at about freezing and as expected, wheelspin was crazy.

By the time it warms up, I probably won't have any quicker runs than what I've seen so far. I have a topper ordered and a gear tunnel slide so the truck will gain some weight and slow it down. I think I could still run a 3.35-3.39, omitting rollout with the extra weight with my SoC about 65% or so. That is pretty solid. The extra weight might help with traction at launch but most of my wheelspin is in the front. I am currently #2 on the Dragy Rivian leaderboard for both 0-60 and 1/8th mile. Totally on the street with an unprepped surface and nowhere near a full charge level. So I am pretty happy with the results so far.

 

[DayTripping]

I've been curious to see how much quicker the G2 quad might be than my G1 quad on the street in the range where the G1 can actually compete apples to apples and not hanicapped by lack of launch mode (which I hope comes) or a low speed limiter which hurts the 1/4 mile times and speeds.

I found this interesting section from MT gushing over the new quad's performance vis a vis its competitors. Bold and italics at the end are mine to highlight the relevant section.

"More superlatives: The R1S Quad is the all-time SUV leader in the 0–100–0 test, its 10.4-second result bettering the Lamborghini Urus Performante, Porsche Cayenne Turbo GT, and Aston Martin DBX707. Among Rivian’s goals in engineering its in-house motors was improved torque delivery off the line and from speed. The Quad’s 1.2-second time in the 45–65-mph acceleration test indicates the automaker’s success."

It can be found here:
https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2025-rivian-r1s-quad-motor-first-test-review/

So I thought, what the heck, I'll go check myself for that somewhat odd metric instead of the normal 30-50 or 50-70 times. So why did they focus on that? So I set up some custom runs in Dragy and went for a spin.

Following my run what you brung approach, I set out to do some runs. Again, I was not at a full charge; I was at about 70%. My batteries weren't warm, and neither were my motors. Instead of my 21" wheels earlier, I am now rolling on my Rivian spec Goodyear Territory AT tires mounted on my Atomic Wheels AW01 20" wheels. I made 3 runs and they were very tightly grouped. It was 50F outside and the road didn't have good traction so I left TC on.

Surprise, surprise, the G2 quad was faster. Who would have thunk it? They didn't list any decimal points of accuracy other than 1.2, but my best run was 1.52, and my worst was 1.53. I don't know about you, but it wasn't the blowout I'd been made to believe it should be if I read all the press. It also means the Tri is likely somewhere in between.

I think if I ran on a warmer day, had better traction, higher SoC (state of charge), and got the junk out of the truck, I'd solidly be in the 1.4 range for sure. That easily shrinks the delta to less than .2 seconds. So if I start to break down the numbers, the quad/tri are obviously launching harder, but even the quad isn't that much quicker in the 45-65 speed range. At launch, I don't have the advantage of any launch mode, and I've yet to run on a prepped track. I am also running on AT (all terrain) tires vs. the high-performance street tires they were on.

As a side note, I did some runs today from 50-90 on the new tires. Pretty remarkably, I ran almost the same exact times as I did before on the 21" Pirellis. So AT vs AS tires, and the Goodyear AT matched the Pirelli AS ones. There were actually some intervals in the 50-90 range, where the Goodyears were better. I also had about a 6 mph headwind and my battery pack was at a lower SoC and temp than for my best previous runs on the Pirellis were.

I can't wait to get some runs in when the battery, air, and motors are warmer. I also need to get the tires totally broken in before launching. I have about 300 miles on them currently and hard launches might start chunking the tread. @B Digs had been promoting these tires pretty heavily since he was one of the Goodyear tire engineers working on them and I have say they have been awesome so far. I'd been happy with the efficiency so far given the type of tire but so far from a performance perspective they have exceeded my expectations. I didn't expect I'd be able to even equal any of my previous times or even be in the range of them. I doubt they will launch as hard but hopefully I can find out soon. They look so much better than the Pirellis.

Anyway, I didn't mean to write a book, but this truck continues to impress. It has very solid numbers even without a high SoC. A few more runs and I'll probably call it a day with the testing. I'll likely have the topper in March, and my slide out gear tunnel rack, and all the extra weight won't help the times. I have gotten a lot of good baseline data. I know exactly what I need to do to wring the best performance out of my truck at almost any speed and most surfaces. While there are limited tuning things you can do, I've played with most of the settings between TC, suspension, ride height, etc. to know that some will pick up a tenth 0-60 and others will cost me more than that. I just need to see if that still holds true for the Goodyears.

 

[DayTripping]

I have posted in other threads that I think the acceleration curve of the Rivians I've driven definitely fall off over 60 mph. I used the analogy of the original Model 3. It was much quicker to 60 compared to its competition than it was let's say from 50-90. Overall, it was reasonably quick but more impressive, 0-60. I really felt that my G1 R1T quad was tracking very closely to my G1 Model 3.

Most of my runs here have been based on how the truck runs out of the box, with no special prep or very high charge level. Basically how it would be at even given moment how I typically am using the car. These are not about chasing the best times but just what it can do, most likely in a worst case scenario. When I did Dragy runs with my 3's previously, I hadn't setup custom ranges to get an idea of things like 50-90 or 70-90, etc. so I didn't have the granularity I was looking for to compare.

So last night I went out and did some pulls in my 2022 Model 3 Long Range (M3LR) with acceleration boost for reference. Like my R1T, I wasn't at a high SoC, 61%, when I started. The results were quite interesting.

My runs basically validated my seat-of-the-pants dyno readings. What I learned I could almost overlay their acceleration curves with the quad being just a touch quicker at every speed interval I have data for but that the early acceleration advantage the R1T has to 60 narrows at higher speeds.

For example, from 0-60, my Rivian will beat my M3LR by about .5 - .6 seconds (when in sport mode for both). When I look at the 50-90 speed range, that advantage has shrunk to .2 -.3 seconds. So, the acceleration curve falls off more at higher speeds than the M3LR does when compared to its 0-60 times. They still fairly closely mimic each other, and when you drive them both, they feel like they are both starting to lie down at about 50 mph. Just the R1T's drop off is a bit more.

For fun, I combed through my data and found a Plaid run with a low SoC (57%). It made 50-90 in less than half the time of either the R1T or M3LR.

My initial impression was that maybe R1T seemed similar or a bit slower than my M3LR at higher speeds. I think what I was feeling is that the rate of acceleration dropped more comparatively at higher speeds to lower speeds. So I felt that slowing of acceleration. Being a bit higher in the truck also lessens the sensation of speed a bit.

They are both very close, and looking at my variations in times, my M3LR could be quicker than my R1T; the Tesla has a higher SoC, and the Rivian has a lower one. The Tesla is more sensitive to higher charge levels when above 50 mph than my Rivian. Or, putting it another way, a higher SoC seems to benefit my 3 more than it does my Rivian.

I just thought I'd post this for reference, as it might help others. I sort of find it interesting to look at the acceleration details and see how my truck compares to others.

 

[Donald Stanfield]

I used launch mode last week. It was about 70 degrees and I hit 60 in 2.84 seconds with a little bit of wheel slip. I wonder what the tri would run on those extra grippy Michelins

 

[DayTripping]

The G1 quad and G2 Tri and Quad are definitely traction limited. Better tires would help any of them.

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