Dumped the model 3 for a R1T

[Nametaken]

Well that's a lot dark! Man that's going into the deep end. So, what some people here seem to think is we should all put our phones into concrete boxes when we are doing anything other then sitting on the couch. That's not the world we live in, we can not rewind where we are we need to figure out best how to do the things that already exist.....do people not get that point !??!!?

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[Donald Stanfield]

Being annoyed is by definition a distraction. Pressing the button is true for phone calls, except you press the button one time to answer the call and then you can talk however long as necessary. You don't need to think about how to phrase your messages and you don't have to keep anything simple which would actually wind up resulting in more messages which means more button presses and more distractions.

Sure phone calls are distracting too, but they are less so than texting. Since you agree that pressing the buttons and using the voice recognition feature for phone calls is distracting thank you for proving my point that text messaging is worse. Since button presses are agreed by both of us to be distracting more presses and more engagement of the voice assistant in the case of texting is more distracting than a phone call.

 

[Donald Stanfield]

Well that's a lot dark! Man that's going into the deep end. So, what some people here seem to think is we should all put our phones into concrete boxes when we are doing anything other then sitting on the couch. That's not the world we live in, we can not rewind where we are we need to figure out best how to do the things that already exist.....do people not get that point !??!!?

I don't need my family having to dodge your car because your text on what to stop at the store and pick up was too important. How do people like you not get that point. Driving is what you should be doing behind the wheel, nothing you have to text is as important as your or my life. If it's really that important pull over and send that text instead of turning your car into a 7K lb missile. Try getting THAT.

 

[Donald Stanfield]

Right, one button press per text. Now do a conversation. I can still have that conversation with just one button press over the phone. How many do you require for a 20 min conversation over text? Thought so.

 

[TexasBob]

Well that's a lot dark! Man that's going into the deep end. So, what some people here seem to think is we should all put our phones into concrete boxes when we are doing anything other then sitting on the couch. That's not the world we live in, we can not rewind where we are we need to figure out best how to do the things that already exist.....do people not get that point !??!!?

I presume the "hey Siri" works fine on the Rivian? Back in the days before Tesla implemented texting via voice in the Model 3, I just used the "hey shirr, send text message to _____" then the phone would pick up and activate the Bluetooth and handle it from there. Same with reading: "hey siri, read new text messages" and it would pick up on Bluetooth and dictate over the car speakers.

 

[Nametaken]

Exactly

 

[Nametaken]

I'm sitting here thinking about the direction this has taken and I can not wrap my head around the fact that people either defend or justify the fact that there's no texting capability in this truck, if you really think about it, in this day and age it's really unacceptable not to have it. Now I am not a software engineer so I don't know how challenging it is to incorporate but, seeing that every other car manufacturer have done it it cannot be that hard can it?

And really at the core of it people are going to text, whether we like it or not, whether it's safe or not, there are people out there that are just going to do it!
So, at the core ,it's really a disservice and a safety issue that the car does not have it.

 

[SoCal Rob]

I’m going to sound really old-fashioned, but I think anything which isn’t driving can potentially be a distraction. As an example, having a live conversation with a passenger should be less distracting than a phone call or text, but if you think that’s always true then I’d like to introduce you to my mom as I’m trying to safely navigate 6 or 7 lanes of traffic to get from an HOV lane to an exit with drivers who seem to think that a blinking light on the side of a vehicle means “OCCUPY THIS SPACE!”

Mom: I’m thinking of getting a new area rug for the living room. The manufacturer I like, Rugco Rugs, has great quality and I found a pattern I like but it comes in different shapes and sizes. I’m not sure if I want a round one that‘s either 9’ or 12’ in diameter, a square of 10’ x 10’, or a rectangle of 10’ x 14’ but keep in mind the price is $300 for the 12’ circle, $250 for the 9’ round one, $225 for the square, and $325 for the rectangular one. Which one of these is the best value if look at the price per square yard?

Me: Mom, can we please look at this when we get back to your place?

While a slight exaggeration for comedic (?) value the reality isn’t THAT far off.

So, I think we all need to be realistic about what’s distracting to us, and be aware that if we’re drifting into some kind of human autopilot mode it may be wise to either stop the distraction or pull over.

For me, a spoken text conversation, which I can launch hands-free and eyes-free if the car allows it, is almost always going to be less distracting because I can easily limit the flow of information. I can stop interacting with it at any moment without repercussions. People talking to you, even in the same car, may not realize that they are asking you to listen to and process information at the most dangerous part of your drive. Worse, if you stop talking, they may become more demanding: Are you even listening to me? Are you still there? Did I lose you? Can you hear me?

I have no problem letting incoming text messages just pile up with no more than a notification sound for each one until I’m in a far less demanding situation. If I was in the middle of responding and I stop, the message just gets abandoned with no hurt feelings from the digital assistant. So for me, that’s safer.

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[freshpow]

I'm sitting here thinking about the direction this has taken and I can not wrap my head around the fact that people either defend or justify the fact that there's no texting capability in this truck, if you really think about it, in this day and age it's really unacceptable not to have it. Now I am not a software engineer so I don't know how challenging it is to incorporate but, seeing that every other car manufacturer have done it it cannot be that hard can it?

And really at the core of it people are going to text, whether we like it or not, whether it's safe or not, there are people out there that are just going to do it!
So, at the core ,it's really a disservice and a safety issue that the car does not have it.

I think most people are just saying be patient as what you're asking for is already on the roadmap and will probably come soon. They're just getting started...you can't have everything right from the jump. Others are rightfully pointing out the dangers of distracted driving.

 

[Donald Stanfield]

I'm sitting here thinking about the direction this has taken and I can not wrap my head around the fact that people either defend or justify the fact that there's no texting capability in this truck, if you really think about it, in this day and age it's really unacceptable not to have it. Now I am not a software engineer so I don't know how challenging it is to incorporate but, seeing that every other car manufacturer have done it it cannot be that hard can it?

And really at the core of it people are going to text, whether we like it or not, whether it's safe or not, there are people out there that are just going to do it!
So, at the core ,it's really a disservice and a safety issue that the car does not have it.

What a terrible logic. Alcohol exists so therefore people are going to drink and drive and we all just need to accept it right? Dont Use the people are going to do it anyways excuse because that isn’t valid anywhere else. Do better.

 

[Donald Stanfield]

If your texts are that short then they can wait. No one really needs to know you’re going to arrive in 5 min because they could just wait the 5 min. Also I never called, or implied, anyone is an idiot but I’m starting to rethink that position.

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