End of my dream

[intimidator]

Again get some real world experience using EA and I will listen. Just cause you watched a few youtube videos and seen few horror stories posted doesn't mean you know anything about anything. Thanks

EA stinks.

Hopefully Volta, Chargepoint, RAN, EVGo or someone can pick up the slack.

Maybe Plugshare can improve real time updates (like Waze) on EA chargers that are not working.

Ultimately, as soon as Electrify America (Volkswagen) can sell and get out of the business, the better. A good owner hopefully can come up with charging station software/hardware that are a lot less buggy.

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[TexasBob]

Here in Texas, CCS is a tough proposition. If I look at a map of any area of Texas (aside from Austin obviously) - there are like NO EA stations, or there are lower speed chargers that - on a 135kwh battery - are basically useless for 'quick charging' on a road trip. Admittedly, Tesla is HQ here and has worked HARD to get the stations up to spec and because we have the HQ nearby the general attention we've got compared to others is much much higher. So, comparing them is admittedly unfair.

Tesla still has a big gap in the San Antonio area and EA has done a pretty good job across the I-10 corridor. Near my house in Houston we have a 350kw (almost always empty) EA charger at the Walmart on I -10. The new infrastructure bill is adding some much-needed CCS stations in charging deserts like East Texas (e.g. Livingston). But it still has a long way to go for sure!

 

[Phil0110]

it's a bit dramatic to me but sorry to hear that.

 

[EVTrucking]

The OP’s experience is unfortunate and understandably frustrating. Brand new $75k R1T having an issue combined with an immature poorly executed ICC network.

My wife and I are new to EVs. Our primary motive for moving to EVs was to stop spewing toxic crap.

We knew going in that we are on the leading edge of the conversion from ICE to EV and therefore accepted the challenges and adjustments.

We have not taken any trips in our EV6 or R1T requiring the use of a charging station but we have studied the available charging network apps. We have planned several trips and it is clear that ICC charging stations are not enough and generally poorly executed. Apps that report the charger status frequently show that individual charging ports are inactive.

Having said that with fore thought and planning and accepting the extra time for charging most long trips in an EV should be enjoyable.

Soon we will make several long trips using multiple apps to plan the trip and a mind set to not leave a working charging port until we have a 100% charge. We also accept that most of the ICC chargers are L2 and that both the EV6 and R1T navigation apps are incomplete.

 

[Denver_Paulie]

My wife and I are new to EVs. Our primary motive for moving to EVs was to stop spewing toxic crap.

We knew going in that we are on the leading edge of the conversion from ICE to EV and therefore accepted the challenges and adjustments.

We have not taken any trips in our EV6 or R1T requiring the use of a charging station but we have studied the available charging network apps. We have planned several trips and it is clear that ICC charging stations are not enough and generally poorly executed. Apps that report the charger status frequently show that individual charging ports are inactive.

Having said that with fore thought and planning and accepting the extra time for charging most long trips in an EV should be enjoyable.

Soon we will make several long trips using multiple apps to plan the trip and a mind set to not leave a working charging port until we have a 100% charge. We also accept that most of the ICC chargers are L2.

Please tell me you are just trolling the site with this post. I don't know whether to laugh at the comedic value, or cry if you are being serious.

 

[EVTrucking]

Please tell me you are just trolling the site with this post. I don't know whether to laugh at the comedic value, or cry if you are being serious.

Not trolling and quite serious.

Why are you being such a jerk?

 

[Denver_Paulie]

Not trolling and quite serious.

Why are you being such a jerk?

In all seriousness, why would you charge your vehicle to 100% at each charging stop? Please do a little homework on charging curves - there is a ton of information available on the web. You will save yourself a lot of time and money. Also, not fair to others to needlessly hog a charger if all you need is a 150 miles of range to the next charger, but you spend two hours charging to 100%.

 

[EVTrucking]

In all seriousness, why would you charge your vehicle to 100% at each charging stop? Please do a little homework on charging curves - there is a ton of information available on the web. You will save yourself a lot of time and money. Also, not fair to others to needlessly hog a charger if all you need is a 150 miles of range to the next charger, but you spend two hours charging to 100%.

I will only charge at a charging station for long trips. We do not take more 1-3 trips a year. So charging to 100% a few times a year will not degrade the battery appreciably. As the ICC network improves and matures so will our charging behavior.

We charge at home 100% of the time with an L2 using a charging range of 30-70%.

It goes without saying that we will be sensitive to other EV owners.

 

[Longhorngirl]

I will only charge at a charging station for long trips. We do not take more 1-3 trips a year. So charging to 100% a few times a year will not degrade the battery appreciably. As the ICC network improves and matures so will our charging behavior.

We charge at home 100% of the time with an L2 using a charging range of 30-70%.

It goes without saying that we will be sensitive to other EV owners.

Hi @EVTrucking. My R1S will be my first EV. It is great to see others like you who are also new to EVs in the forum trying to learn more. From what I learned and what @Denver_Paulie is trying to say is that it doesn’t make sense to charge to 100% because It will take a longggggg time.

InsideEV did a good job in explaining here. You can see that the last 10% took 35 minutes. You don’t want to charge to 100% not because you are worried about battery degradation. You don't want to charge to 100% because it will take too long and add a significant time charging. Charging to 100% at home before your trip would make sense, but waiting 35 minutes to charge the last 10% would just add unnecessary time to your trip, unless you need 100% to get to your next charger. Hope this helps.

https://insideevs.com/news/586886/how-long-to-charge-rivian-r1t/

 

[SANZC02]

Hi @EVTrucking. My R1S will be my first EV. It is great to see others like you who are also new to EVs in the forum trying to learn more. From what I learned and what @Denver_Paulie is trying to say is that it doesn’t make sense to charge to 100% because It will take a longggggg time.

InsideEV did a good job in explaining here. You can see that the last 10% took 35 minutes. You don’t want to charge to 100% not because you are worried about battery degradation. You don't want to charge to 100% because it will take too long and add a significant time charging. Charging to 100% at home before your trip would make sense, but waiting 35 minutes to charge the last 10% would just add unnecessary time to your trip, unless you need 100% to get to your next charger. Hope this helps.

https://insideevs.com/news/586886/how-long-to-charge-rivian-r1t/

Kudos @Longhorngirl, this is how we all should be behaving on the forums.

 

[Biturbowned]

That's quite frankly ridiculous.

Imagine if your hood or trunk thinking it was unlatched disengaged or speed goverend your ICE engine. There's a reason there is no regulatory requirement for that. Rivian is trying to be far too smart here.

Likely has more to do with the fact that you could have a human in the frunk of the R1T, but not possible w/ a gas engine in that space. The R1T has an emergency release inside the frunk if I’m not mistaken, in the event that it gets pressed, I would think you’d want to give the occupant the opportunity to flea without being run over at 55 mph.

 

[ajdelange]

My wife and I are new to EVs. Our primary motive for moving to EVs was to stop spewing toxic crap.

Unless you live in an area that gets all its electricity from renewable sources or you charge from solar panels/windmill you are still spewing crap. There is some improvement because a large power plant, even with transmission losses, is more fuel efficient than an ICE vehicle burning the fuel on board.

 

[AdamsFan1983]

In all seriousness, why would you charge your vehicle to 100% at each charging stop? Please do a little homework on charging curves - there is a ton of information available on the web. You will save yourself a lot of time and money. Also, not fair to others to needlessly hog a charger if all you need is a 150 miles of range to the next charger, but you spend two hours charging to 100%.

Dude, I'm not your mom; but the guy was upfront about being new to EV's. Cut him some slack. If you want to educate him on why his plan is overly cautious, I humbly suggest there's a better way.

@EVTrucking You do you my man, but there are better ways than charging to 100%. Your R1T will charge appreciably slower at higher speeds, and some stations charge by the minute (so you'll be unnecessarily adding time and expense to your trips). You'd be better off adding an extra stop into the route and getting a true fast charge and moving on at 75-80%. You'll also be getting the side eye if someone is waiting behind you for the charger and you go to 100%

 

[crashmtb]

Likely has more to do with the fact that you could have a human in the frunk of the R1T, but not possible w/ a gas engine in that space. The R1T has an emergency release inside the frunk if I’m not mistaken, in the event that it gets pressed, I would think you’d want to give the occupant the opportunity to flea without being run over at 55 mph.

Hood flying up due to improper latching seems like a far greater likelihood than a trapped person.

 

[riviancanucknb]

Hood flying up due to improper latching seems like a far greater likelihood than a trapped person.

Again, there is no requirement for this.

Prop open the hood of your ICE vehicle (don't fully latch) and see if it governs the engine.

It won't even warn you.

There is no safety requirement here, they invented this check.

If you look at how Tesla does this, it pops up a warning that disappears after 5 seconds. That is the proper way to do things like this... anyone with a modicum of sense would realize that, you need to plain for these sensors to fail, and you *always* want a vehicle to fail-working when a sensor is malfunctioning.... This is a poor software design decision and it makes me wonder how many of these there are now.

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