Gear Guard Animation Too Cartoonish?

[moondoggy]

Is The Security System Sending the Right Message?

Greetings,

We all take pride in our Rivians, and keeping them safe is a top priority. That center display flashing a cartoony Yeti with a Super 8 when we activate the alarm...well, let's just say it's undeniably cute. But is it enough to deter a determined car thief?

Now, don't get me wrong, a visible deterrent is better than none. But wouldn't a more serious visual cue send a stronger message?

• Has customization been discussed?
• Or, hey, maybe it’s already secret genius, psychologically disarming thieves with its unexpected cuteness?

Otherwise, Any Real Security Pro-tips?

• Parking strategies?
• Steering wheel locks?
• Tracking devices?

What are your thoughts? & Thanks!

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[Polar]

I don’t understand the question.

 

[VC_Rivian]

Damn you are trying to layoff Gary! He is employee #3

 

[Redline]

I don’t understand the question.

 

[moondoggy]

Damn you are trying to layoff Gary! He is employee #3

If I could layoff Gary, there’d be CarPlay for all!

 

[madgrey]

My scale (1-10) of deterrents goes something like this:
1 - flashing dashboard light, or "As-seen-on TV: 'The Club' "
2 - Alarms from the '90s that said "Step away from the Vehicle"
3 - Gary
4 - Trunk Frunk monkeys

Do alarms and such really work? I mostly worry about vehicle prowl, just don't make it easy.

 

[ads75]

I think the primary thing is to get someones attention and let them know that they are being recorded. That's what Gary does. If they care or not is something else. Do you really think a screen flashing a badge or 911 or a picture of something else would change someone's mind? I can't think of anything that could be displayed on the screen that would change someone's mind if they wanted to cause damage or break in. Heck, maybe seeing Gary would put them in a better mood. And if it was an animation meant to intimidate or threaten them, maybe they would say screw it, and vandalize away.

I can't believe I felt the need to respond to this thread.

 

[moondoggy]

I think the primary thing is to get someones attention and let them know that they are being recorded. That's what Gary does. If they care or not is something else. Do you really think a screen flashing a badge or 911 or a picture of something else would change someone's mind? I can't think of anything that could be displayed on the screen that would change someone's mind if they wanted to cause damage or break in. Heck, maybe seeing Gary would put them in a better mood. And if it was an animation meant to intimidate or threaten them, maybe they would say screw it, and vandalize away.

I can't believe I felt the need to respond to this thread.

Based on reports online, it appears to me that vandals (and many people in general), have no idea cars like Rivian and Tesla are potentially recording them. Wouldn’t displaying / making that known be a step in a better direction? A cartoon Yeti holding a Super 8 is just a tad ambiguous.

 

[Laserboy1054]

is it enough to deter a determined car thief?

I think this is a superb question! However, we cannot even answer, with any confidence, whether capital punishment is a deterrent. If something so profound and with so much associated data can't yield a solid conclusion, I think we're hosed in this situation.

That said, I'll point out that when and how audio and video recordings can be used in legal cases is a _very_ complex matter and varies wildly from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. I'm not an attorney and I avoid interactions with attorneys (in their proffesional capacity--I have many friends who are lawyers and I enjoy their company, so long as they wash their hands after work) much as I do with priests and physicians. But I suspect that the presence of the cartoon Gary will make recordings admissable in some places where they would not be if it had not been present.

In some places, people (even scumbag car thieves) need to be unambiguously informed that they are being recorded for the recordings to be admissable. But we don't want the notice to become just a challenge! So, I speculate, perhaps Gary is actually just right: he unambiguously informs the prospective thieves/vandals, but he's so disarming that, perhaps, he doesn't just add boast-value to the act.

Pure speculation--there are probably folks who have studied this sort of thing who can comment more intelligently. But I think it's a really good question! Maybe an animation of a cyber-attack-dog would be better than a cuddly Yeti. I dunno.

 

[WhisperPickle]

Is The Security System Sending the Right Message?

Greetings,

We all take pride in our Rivians, and keeping them safe is a top priority. That center display flashing a cartoony Yeti with a Super 8 when we activate the alarm...well, let's just say it's undeniably cute. But is it enough to deter a determined car thief?

Now, don't get me wrong, a visible deterrent is better than none. But wouldn't a more serious visual cue send a stronger message?

• Has customization been discussed?
• Or, hey, maybe it’s already secret genius, psychologically disarming thieves with its unexpected cuteness?

Otherwise, Any Real Security Pro-tips?

• Parking strategies?
• Steering wheel locks?
• Tracking devices?

What are your thoughts? & Thanks!

This is the most absurd post/thread I’ve cone across here.

 

[WhisperPickle]

I think this is a superb question! However, we cannot even answer, with any confidence, whether capital punishment is a deterrent. If something so profound and with so much associated data can't yield a solid conclusion, I think we're hosed in this situation.

That said, I'll point out that when and how audio and video recordings can be used in legal cases is a _very_ complex matter and varies wildly from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. I'm not an attorney and I avoid interactions with attorneys (in their proffesional capacity--I have many friends who are lawyers and I enjoy their company, so long as they wash their hands after work) much as I do with priests and physicians. But I suspect that the presence of the cartoon Gary will make recordings admissable in some places where they would not be if it had not been present.

In some places, people (even scumbag car thieves) need to be unambiguously informed that they are being recorded for the recordings to be admissable. But we don't want the notice to become just a challenge! So, I speculate, perhaps Gary is actually just right: he unambiguously informs the prospective thieves/vandals, but he's so disarming that, perhaps, he doesn't just add boast-value to the act.

Pure speculation--there are probably folks who have studied this sort of thing who can comment more intelligently. But I think it's a really good question! Maybe an animation of a cyber-attack-dog would be better than a cuddly Yeti. I dunno.

No, an animated yellow cartoon monster with video camera has no admissibility impact. You can legally record video in public spaces - it is not at all a complex legal matter nor does it change from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. It’s a basic first amendment issue and long established precedent that when you leave your home you lose the expectation of privacy.

The issue that varies from state to state (and still isn’t that complex) is recording private conversations between two people, and you either have one party consent or two party consent. But the Rivian doesn’t do that so it has no impact here.

 

[Laserboy1054]

No, an animated yellow cartoon monster with video camera has no admissibility impact.

The issue that varies from state to state (and still isn’t that complex) is recording private conversations between two people, and you either have one party consent or two party consent.

I stand corrected! Thanks for the clarification. I've been in other situations in which people (who did seem to know what they were talking about, but "seem to" and "do" are very different!) expressed the need to have particular labels in order to maintain admissibility. But I'm cool with them giving me bad info.

 

[moondoggy]

Pure speculation--there are probably folks who have studied this sort of thing who can comment more intelligently. But I think it's a really good question! Maybe an animation of a cyber-attack-dog would be better than a cuddly Yeti. I dunno.

Appreciate that. Pet Mode sends an intentionally clear message. Why not Gear Guard?

 

[Chrisy]

4 - Trunk monkeys

Absolutely this!
In our case 'Frunk monkeys' though

 

[Laserboy1054]

Absolutely this!
In our case 'Frunk monkeys' though

YES! I didn't know until this moment that frunk monkeys are exactly what is missing from my "options" list.

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