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Gen 1 R1T class action lawsuit (self driving feature)

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Regarding the class action lawsuit over self driving feature

Looking for the information on the representation of the lawsuit

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Regarding the class action lawsuit over self driving feature

Looking for the information on the representation of the lawsuit

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Random website seems to have a reasonable write up.
 

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lol. personally, I would rather have the fully 180* degree folding tailgate or adjustable glass roof. Yeah, it would be nice to have the self-driving they claimed in the beginning, but no question I would use other options more.
I really wanted the modular R1T bed. I had so many plans....
 

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If I ever manage to get an R2 test drive, I will swing by home and try to discharge the battery.
 

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I said, several times, that this would happen; too many fanboys decried me. I will start the popcorn.
 

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I really wanted bidirectional charging but it as a marketing lie
Not a lie, just no first-party equipment to support it (yet.) Works fine with third party equipment. (As someone else linked.)
 

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lol. personally, I would rather have the fully 180* degree folding tailgate or adjustable glass roof. Yeah, it would be nice to have the self-driving they claimed in the beginning, but no question I would use other options more.
All of the missing things would have been "nice to have"s. The firmly-fixed roof is the most disappointing. My spouse prefers to have an opening roof. Even the manual "use an Allen wrench to remove it and stow it in the bed" would have been acceptable. (Assuming a proper storage system was available.)
 

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Not a lie, just no first-party equipment to support it (yet.) Works fine with third party equipment. (As someone else linked.)
If there is no first party equipment then it is a nonexistent feature. Tesla has bidirectional charging on all models too if you use that logic
 

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If there is no first party equipment then it is a nonexistent feature. Tesla has bidirectional charging on all models too if you use that logic
My cell phone advertises that it supports Qi wireless charging at 40W. But the manufacturer does not make a Qi charging puck that does 40W. Does that mean this is a nonexistent feature?

Many EV makers don't actually make their own EVSEs. Does that mean those vehicles aren't capable of charging? Before RAN launched, was DC charging "nonexistent" to Rivian owners?
 

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My cell phone advertises that it supports Qi wireless charging at 40W. But the manufacturer does not make a Qi charging puck that does 40W. Does that mean this is a nonexistent feature?

Many EV makers don't actually make their own EVSEs. Does that mean those vehicles aren't capable of charging? Before RAN launched, was DC charging "nonexistent" to Rivian owners?
These bidirectional chargers use a trick to make the car release power which is not an official method. I'm pretty sure they just spoof being a CCS charger and then just pull power instead of providing it.

The lack of an official bidirectional adapter means that some hardware in the car is not reliable enough for this purpose
 

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These bidirectional chargers use a trick to make the car release power which is not an official method

The lack of an official bidirectional adapter means that some hardware in the car is not reliable enough for this purpose
That is literally the exact method that CCS says to use. Rivian even said that R1's bidirectional support is DC, requiring an off board inverter - exactly what the third party systems do.

It's the R2-specific AC bidirectional that requires more work (the adapter.)

I can't speak to why Rivian hasn't released the first-party one - maybe the switch to NACS has them having to redesign it, and they didn't want to release one that only works on CCS vehicles.

But the feature exists and is usable today.
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