How to turn off auto height?

[RD TRP EV]

Willing to bet this is to mitigate the whine-fest about tire wear... to keep people from driving in lower ride heights when they shouldn't (since Dual's default is FWD).

I would think it is the opposite for me. I do a lot of highway driving and I'd like to keep it at standard so that the inside of my tires don't wear out prematurely.

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[BCondrey]

Covered many times. This is intentionally done to meet EPA requirements. It resets 4 hours after each drive, as indicated in the owners manual. There is no fix for intended behavior.

Thats right, I remember seeing that now. I still don't like it, but thanks for reminding me!

 

[kpblasko]

Was not personal and shouldn't be taken as personal if it doesn't describe you. There have been plenty of people—lacking understanding of tires and suspension geometry—complaining loudly about tire life as if Rivian made an egregious mistake.

Are you implying that running in the "low" suspension setting doesn't change the camber and wear the inside of the tires more quickly? If this is the case, I'd love to hear the explanation, as I've been stressing about remembering to return the vehicle to "standard" height on the freeway.

 

[UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan]

Are you implying that running in the "low" suspension setting doesn't change the camber and wear the inside of the tires more quickly? If this is the case, I'd love to hear the explanation, as I've been stressing about remembering to return the vehicle to "standard" height on the freeway.

How on earth did you arrive at that interpretation? Let’s call standard the “nominal” setting. All other heights are deviations from nominal. The greater the deviation, the greater likelihood of uneven tire wear. Tires are like pencil erasers. How often you scrub/erase, what angle, how much pressure… all contribute to how quickly you wear down that eraser. So if you want your [front] tires to last, be cognizant of when and how you drive while in FWD (and monitor tread wear and adjust rotation intervals accordingly).

 

[kpblasko]

How on earth did you arrive at that interpretation?

Your exact words were "There have been plenty of people—lacking understanding of tires and suspension geometry—complaining loudly about tire life as if Rivian made an egregious mistake."

The complaints I've heard are that running in "low" suspension setting will create excess negative camber, and wear the inside of the tires unevenly. And your comment seemed to indicate that this may be a misunderstanding, so I just wanted to be sure...

 

[UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan]

Your exact words were "There have been plenty of people—lacking understanding of tires and suspension geometry—complaining loudly about tire life as if Rivian made an egregious mistake."

The complaints I've heard are that running in "low" suspension setting will create excess negative camber, and wear the inside of the tires unevenly. And your comment seemed to indicate that this may be a misunderstanding, so I just wanted to be sure...

They complained loudly because they did not understand how ride height changes suspension geometry and induce accelerated uneven wear. And what vehicle dynamics (driving habits and weight transfer), combined with suspension geometry, can contribute to tire wear. They accuse Rivian of bad engineering on the basis of "my X-Y-Z car [which does not have variable suspension, does not weight 7k lbs and have over 500 hp] never wore through tires this fast".

 

[Dark-Fx]

Buy a gen1 quad

 

[beatle]

They complained loudly because they did not understand how ride height changes suspension geometry and induce accelerated uneven wear. And what vehicle dynamics (driving habits and weight transfer), combined with suspension geometry, can contribute to tire wear. They accuse Rivian of bad engineering on the basis of "my X-Y-Z car [which does not have variable suspension, does not weight 7k lbs and have over 500 hp] never wore through tires this fast".

My Model S had variable height suspension and close to 800hp, and I could still get over 25k out of a set of high performance all seasons. I also drove it a bit faster than my R1T.

The problem isn't that Rivian designed a bad product that just wants to eat tires, it's that even when you know better than to drive around in low all the time for best tire life, you don't have the option of permanently opting out of that adjustment. Or if you don't care how tires wear or how much range you get, you're not given the freedom to leave the truck in low and always drive the front and rear motors. The truck is capable of actually being all things to all people with its adjustments, but Rivian and the EPA always know better and will keep correcting the owners' mistakes every 4 hours.

 

[stormbreaker]

The key detail in the latest update you're looking for is this:

> In Dual-Motor vehicles, the Auto ride height setting turns on after 4 hours since your last drive.

Auto will always re-enable after your vehicle sleeps for too long.

Yes, and thankfully I learned about the settings with kneel mode when going into Park.

 

[teartags]

Everyone write to Customer service and complain. Let's be LOUD.

 

[wjhdrew]

Yea it's pretty annoying to deal with. And I think people are complaining because you can set it to Standard, or whatever, and then as you're backing out or whatnot, it'll set itself back to Auto. It seems to happen sometimes whenever you go to park. So you can get in your driveway, possibly set it to Park, it'll set to Auto without you realizing. Or you enter your parked vehicle, you set it to a height, and then you switch to reverse, and it's in Auto.

It seems to set to Auto at seemingly random scenarios. Not just after it's been asleep for 4 hours. It's hard to figure out why/when it happens and I don't really have the time or care to sit and test it out and write down notes on when I notice it happening.

Not a massive deal, but it's pretty annoying I have to keep checking that it's at the setting I put it in.

 

[TTedP]

Since the last update, the ride height resets to "auto" for me, it does not stay in the ride height I select. I am constantly setting it to "standard", only to have it go back to "auto". Hoping they fix this with the new update.

see post #10 above

 

[mpshizzle]

It seems to set to Auto at seemingly random scenarios. Not just after it's been asleep for 4 hours. It's hard to figure out why/when it happens and I don't really have the time or care to sit and test it out and write down notes on when I notice it happening.

I'm pretty sure that's a bug. In my vehicle, if I turn off auto it'll stay off until it sleeps 4 hours. Never randomly turns on mid-drive

 

[Kaiju]

Owners of dual motors were actually wronged somewhat in this change. I know because I'm in the same boat as everyone else asking not how you turn it off, but how you stop it from turning itself back on.

The key thing here is that Rivian didn't tell anyone they were making auto ride height turn itself back on. Not in the patch notes and not before. No 'Hey, if this matters to you your ride height's not going to stay set like it used to.' It didn't ever do that until the last update. Then they changed the owner's manual to say it's supposed to do that, where it did not before. That's underhanded by itself and a reason to be unhappy with Rivian, except they also fucked it up.

A lot of dual motor trucks, mine included, have an associated software bug where auto ride height turns itself back on constantly. Not every 4 hours sitting like it's 'supposed to'. I put in a ticket and after a week of not getting an appointment scheduled, I called in and service tells me there just is no fix. There's no way to disable it while it's malfunctioning and there's nothing the techs can do to fix it. The only solution is to wait for the next software update and supposedly it will be addressed.

I've had some bad experiences that I'd forgiven, but this is the first time Rivian has actually done something that makes me distrust the company. It's an anti-consumer move because there is no operation-related reason for the change. It's all to do with range marketing. Even if I wasn't annoyed at having to check that the auto ride height is off after every time I touch the shifter, stabbing that button reminds me several times daily that my vehicle is subject to post-purchase changes I didn't consent to and apparently bullshit range marketing reasons are enough to let someone screw with how my truck drives. I shouldn't have to deal with being constantly vigilant about it, especially since that's not how it was delivered.

 

[Sidney]

I wonder if there's a chance this changes. I doubt it though. They sold the vehicle with a certain EPA range. And I guess they need to do this to be compliant.

Super frustrating, as this is also a safety issue in the winter for me. All purpose is downright sketchy in the snow, because regenerative braking is front wheel only by default, and the front starts to slide before engaging the rear axle. Only made the mistake a couple times last year, and then decided to stay in snow mode through the winter, unless hopping on the interstate.

Now every time I start a drive I'll need to reset ride height and switch to snow mode? Frustrating.

(also - I dont want auto ride height because my commute is mostly on surface streets but I go two exits on the interstate. I don't want any extra wear and tear just so my car can lower for the three minutes on the interstate)

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