ICE competition: 2025 4Runner news, specs, timing, preview CGIs -- via insider info

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2025 4Runner (6th Gen) News, Specs & Preview Renderings -- Based on Insider Info (as of 7/30/23) -- see at 4Runner6G

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[MidnightRivian]

Skip the 4 cylinder 4runner. Let’s wait to see what the Land Cruiser will pack. GX 550 is another option for folks looking for an off-road SUV.

 

[COdogman]

People love those 4 Runners. I’m sure they will sell a bunch of them.

 

[biker1284]

With Land Cruiser now the size of the 4runner, I wonder if 4runner will slim down a notch? Nice little off road capable hybrid, making those who want something a bit bigger push up to land cruiser pricing.

 

[Donald Stanfield]

Under 300 HP. Yesterday's tech at tomorrows prices. I think Toyota should change their slogan, I think my suggestion flows of the tongue nicely.

 

[Ecupip]

With Land Cruiser now the size of the 4runner, I wonder if 4runner will slim down a notch? Nice little off road capable hybrid, making those who want something a bit bigger push up to land cruiser pricing.

I’m confused why they would even bother making both.

 

[emoore]

I’m confused why they would even bother making both.

Good point. I’m confused why they don’t make them electric. Would sell a boatload.

 

[Thedude]

Good point. I’m confused why they don’t make them electric. Would sell a boatload.

Because a whole lot of people don’t want electric vehicles. The market for EVs is tiny compared to conventional ICE vehicles.

 

[emoore]

Because a whole lot of people don’t want electric vehicles. The market for EVs is tiny compared to conventional ICE vehicles.

Don’t think that’s really true anymore. And soon they won’t have a choice of EV or ICE.

 

[biker1284]

Good point. I’m confused why they don’t make them electric. Would sell a boatload.

Toyota's whole stance is smaller batteries in a larger # of cars is a much more green approach than full EV is. It does makes sense to me. This one has a 1.x kWh battery, so you can do that with 100 vehicles vs 1.

 

[Thedude]

Don’t think that’s really true anymore. And soon they won’t have a choice of EV or ICE.

Based on some fairly quick research about 50% of buyers in the US said they would consider an EV while only about 8% of buyers actually bought an EV. The market share for ICE still massively outweighs the market share for EVs and that isn’t likely going to change over the designed market lifespan of these new vehicle releases.

 

[emoore]

Based on some fairly quick research about 50% of buyers in the US said they would consider an EV while only about 8% of buyers actually bought an EV. The market share for ICE still massively outweighs the market share for EVs and that isn’t likely going to change over the designed market lifespan of these new vehicle releases.

I disagree. There will be massive demand for EVs in the next 5-10 years. And this 4Runner will probably be the same model for 10-15 years.

 

[emoore]

Toyota's whole stance is smaller batteries in a larger # of cars is a much more green approach than full EV is. It does makes sense to me. This one has a 1.x kWh battery, so you can do that with 100 vehicles vs 1.

I think that’s a flawed stance by Toyota.

 

[Thedude]

I disagree. There will be massive demand for EVs in the next 5-10 years. And this 4Runner will probably be the same model for 10-15 years.

Even a massive demand increase still leaves a large percentage of the market as ICE buyers. EV demand and adoption isn’t going to increase to even 50% in the next 5-10 years.

 

[emoore]

Even a massive demand increase still leaves a large percentage of the market as ICE buyers. EV demand and adoption isn’t going to increase to even 50% in the next 5-10 years.

Quick research says EVs are predicted to be 65% of global new car sales by 2030. That’s even better than what I was hoping.

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