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[Bcross]

Since that was in 2017 I just wanted to check on you and ask what it's like for time to move that slowly? Are you part Greenland Shark?

Former Mitsubishi plant now owned by Rivian Automotive
The Associated Press
Jan. 5, 2017
NORMAL — Rivian Automotive has completed its purchase of the former Mitsubishi plant in Normal, where it plans to manufacture electric vehicles.

https://www.sj-r.com/story/business/2017/01/05/former-mitsubishi-plant-now-owned/22809022007/

LOL! A number of factors caused the delay. I had just purchased my 2016 Ram EcoDiesel. I wanted to see what the initial roll-out of electric trucks looked like. Initially the charging infrastructure in the Midwest looked somewhat lacking. And, I tend to over-think & over-plan everything!

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[CampfireWisdom]

Welcome to the forum. I had an R2 reserved and now that I have my R1T, not really sure if I'll convert my reservation into an order. You can pick up low mileage R1T's for likely about the same, or a little more as an R2 (depending on spec). A 2022-2024 quad motor R1T is a heckuva bargain right now. Supercar performance, fun to drive, and a great daily driver.

Sound advice. I did think about picking up a used one down the line. For now, I’m partial to the Gen 2 for its long-term capabilities. I plan on owning my next car for a very long time… still driving my 2014 Prius C, haha.

 

[DayTripping]

Sound advice. I did think about picking up a used one down the line. For now, I’m partial to the Gen 2 for its long-term capabilities. I plan on owning my next car for a very long time… still driving my 2014 Prius C, haha.

I wouldn't bet on Gen 2 long term capabilities. Buy on what is shipping now, not what is promised in the future. It has worked well with my Teslas and Rivian doesn't seem to be any different.

If I had bought the same basic Gen 2 truck as my Gen 1, I'd have spent at least 45k more. That will cover a lot of future proofing. Depreciation on almost all new EVs is horrendous. On one Tesla I bought about 3 years ago, I've have almost lost as much in value as I paid for my Gen 1 quad. If I had bought at closer to the peak price for that model, I would have lost more than what I paid for my Rivian.

Rivian isn't immune from this either. A new $100k Rivian will be 60k in about 2-3 years, or faster if the next Gen comes out. Treat EVs like phones, and you won't be shocked by how much today's model drops in price tomorrow.

 

[CampfireWisdom]

I wouldn't bet on Gen 2 long term capabilities. Buy on what is shipping now, not what is promised in the future. It has worked well with my Teslas and Rivian doesn't seem to be any different.

If I had bought the same basic Gen 2 truck as my Gen 1, I'd have spent at least 45k more. That will cover a lot of future proofing. Depreciation on almost all new EVs is horrendous. On one Tesla I bought about 3 years ago, I've have almost lost as much in value as I paid for my Gen 1 quad. If I had bought at closer to the peak price for that model, I would have lost more than what I paid for my Rivian.

Rivian isn't immune from this either. A new $100k Rivian will be 60k in about 2-3 years, or faster if the next Gen comes out. Treat EVs like phones, and you won't be shocked by how much today's model drops in price tomorrow.

Again, sound advice. I’ll probably pick up a used 2025 R1T Gen 2 down the line.

 

[DayTripping]

If you do go with a Gen 1, and want good autonomous driving, get a Comma.ai 3X device. It does hands free driving of the truck now which is better than the Gen 2's will do currently. It doesn't have full speed control yet, but they are working on that. So you just use it with the adaptive cruise.

 

[CampfireWisdom]

If you do go with a Gen 1, and want good autonomous driving, get a Comma.ai 3X device. It does hands free driving of the truck now which is better than the Gen 2's will do currently. It doesn't have full speed control yet, but they are working on that. So you just use it with the adaptive cruise.

Thanks again! I can tell that this forum is full of expertise.

 

[DayTripping]

Thanks again! I can tell that this forum is full of expertise.

A lot great info here and a lot of helpful people.

When you finally get around to buying, look at the differences between the Gens what they might actually mean to you.

When I researched last year it seemed like the Gen 2's (on paper) were so much better if you were to believe the hype. I would say that objectively they were better in some areas but also worse in others. At the end of the day, are the Gen 2 "upgrades" worth the additional cost? Only you can decide for yourself.

I drove a ton of them (Gen 1&2) as close to back to back as I could and took notes to refer to later. I had (and have) other EVs so I had good reference points as well. The one thing that previously I would have wanted was the heat pump that is in the Gen 2's. Well, it is an advantage, but can be disadvantage, depending on your climate. Very hot temps (85F+) favor traditional AC systems like in the Gen 1. Not to mention the Gen 2 HVAC systems were much louder than Gen 1 and far louder than the heatpumps in my Tesla.

A lot of what Rivian did was for cost cutting and understandably so. So if there was a consumer benefit, great. If not, they still saved money. So I decided to quantify the difference from dollar perspective. I picked up a barely used (6k miles) 2023 quad for just over 60k. A similar Tri motor (slight larger battery pack and maybe a touch quicker) was going to be over 110k with similar options (but a slightly nicer interior) at the time I bought about 6 months ago. For me it wasn't worth the additional $$$ even though I could afford it. My payment to purchase the truck over 4 years was going to be about the same as a lease payment for 3 years, and I could do the loan with 0 out of pocket, and the lease required some money down.

In my situation my truck is for business purposes and with the advantageous tax rules for 2024, I could almost write off the entire value of the truck for that year. I had a pretty good year last year so any tax savings I could get would be helpful. IRS Sec 179 was my friend. I would have take the same route even if I couldn't have written of the truck the way I did.

Good luck with whatever you buy. I still might buy a Gen 2 but it would be the new quad motor when it finally hits the showrooms or I may just wait it out for Gen 3 as the Gen 1 has been a pretty solid truck.

 

[puppychauffeur]

Hi!

My partner and I are considering ordering the R3X as our first EV. He’s really excited about the rally-inspired performance and retro design. We live in Western Washington with our 2 dogs and are interested in the idea of having an adventure-ready, electric vehicle that's also commuter-friendly.

That said, we’ve heard the usual advice about avoiding the first year of a new model, so I’m curious to hear from the community—how has Rivian historically supported its vehicles after launch? Have early adopters generally had a good experience with updates, service, and reliability?

Looking forward to learning from all of you—thanks in advance!

 

[DayTripping]

Hi!

My partner and I are considering ordering the R3X as our first EV. He’s really excited about the rally-inspired performance and retro design. We live in Western Washington with our 2 dogs and are interested in the idea of having an adventure-ready, electric vehicle that's also commuter-friendly.

That said, we’ve heard the usual advice about avoiding the first year of a new model, so I’m curious to hear from the community—how has Rivian historically supported its vehicles after launch? Have early adopters generally had a good experience with updates, service, and reliability?

Looking forward to learning from all of you—thanks in advance!

Welcome to the forum.

There is always risk with a new model and typically less when it is from an established manufacturer. Many bought the very first Rivians when they came out and have good luck.

I think the R3X will be an awesome vehicle but like all new models, might have a few minor teething pains. By the time they get the R2 out and in the hands of customers, get feedback, they will hopefully use this to make the R3X better.

Keep your eyes on the R2 when it was released to see how well the pivot to the smaller, higher volume models is working out for them.

I have an R1T, and R2 on order but drop my R2 order and go with the R3X or maybe just keep my R1T.

 

[antimatter]

Hello, all!

I've been lurking and hoovering up knowledge on a Rivian R1T as a replacement for my Honda Ridgeline. I started looking at EV trucks with an interest in the Ford F-150 Lighting, but I do use my Ridgeline for commuting and shopping, and a full-sized truck can be a bit of a hassle to park and to drive in congested traffic. Next, I test drove the Silverado RST, but it's new this year and even with the rear-wheel steering it is still a full-sized truck. Enter the Rivian R1T, and I noticed that there were used examples hitting the market that were considerably less expensive than a new model.

With that in mind, I test drove a 2023 quad-motor with a large battery that was for sale at a local Ford dealer. Unfortunately, I found the ride quite jarring, as well as there being a lot of tire noise. The truck has 22" tires with aggressive tread, and they looked like there were half way through their life. The problem was that the sales person had no idea of how to set up the suspension or operate any of the controls on the truck. I walked away disappointed by the ride quality and shelved the idea of an EV truck for the immediate future.

My wife said I should take a test drive with the local Rivian dealer, suggesting they would be able to answer my concerns regarding the ride quality. I just finished a ride in a 2025 Dual-motor max battery R1T, and was really impressed by how much better the ride was than the 2023 I had ridden in before.

So, to my question: is the Gen 2 a much better riding truck than the 2023? Or would putting the older truck in a softer mode have addressed my issue? I really liked the '23 overall, I just wouldn't want to drive long distance with that rough a ride (which felt harsh even on the freeway).

Let me know what you think.

 

[TollKeeper]

Your going to get mixed answers to your question...

That said, I only have experience with a G1 2024 R1S Quad, with 22" wheels

The last couple updates have REALLY upgraded the feel of the suspension.

The R1T that I have been loaned a few times from the Service Center rode markedly better than the R1S, they were all R1T's, Quads, with 20" wheels.

If you have the chance, and its still available, go back to that Ford Dealer, make sure its on the latest version. You check this by swiping up from the bottom, click on the gear (settings), go to vehicle, and then update. It should be on version 2025.06. If its not, it might have an option to "Update Now". Click on that, and let the truck update. It can take up to one hour.

If it has 2024.51, this will also give a very good ride.

If the truck has one of those 2 updates, then set the Mode to All-Purpose, suspension to standard, take the check mark out of the Auto setting just below that, Ride Feel to Soft, and Regen to High.

This will set the R1T to the softest ride available.

Personally, I think the G2 is only worth it for one safety purpose, that no one else will ever likely use, except me (as it would be part of my job), and thats the directional hazards. Beyond that, for the price, I would find a nice G1, speced like you want, and see what happens.

RivianRoamer.com has them, AutoTempest.com has them, and another site I cant remember the name of (I know they are a sponsor here).... Plus our own marketplace.

Just be mindful of warranties with miles.

 

[antimatter]

Thank you - that is exactly what I needed to know. I'll reach out and see if the '23 is still available. It is even in my favorite color - forest green.

 

[Mrthetank]

Hi everyone -

Moderate time lurking spent unregistered, and now here hoping to get into an R1T. Transitioning from a Model 3 Performance and a Gladiator - it seems like the R1T welds those two fairly perfectly.

 

[DayTripping]

Hello, all!

I've been lurking and hoovering up knowledge on a Rivian R1T as a replacement for my Honda Ridgeline. I started looking at EV trucks with an interest in the Ford F-150 Lighting, but I do use my Ridgeline for commuting and shopping, and a full-sized truck can be a bit of a hassle to park and to drive in congested traffic. Next, I test drove the Silverado RST, but it's new this year and even with the rear-wheel steering it is still a full-sized truck. Enter the Rivian R1T, and I noticed that there were used examples hitting the market that were considerably less expensive than a new model.

With that in mind, I test drove a 2023 quad-motor with a large battery that was for sale at a local Ford dealer. Unfortunately, I found the ride quite jarring, as well as there being a lot of tire noise. The truck has 22" tires with aggressive tread, and they looked like there were half way through their life. The problem was that the sales person had no idea of how to set up the suspension or operate any of the controls on the truck. I walked away disappointed by the ride quality and shelved the idea of an EV truck for the immediate future.

My wife said I should take a test drive with the local Rivian dealer, suggesting they would be able to answer my concerns regarding the ride quality. I just finished a ride in a 2025 Dual-motor max battery R1T, and was really impressed by how much better the ride was than the 2023 I had ridden in before.

So, to my question: is the Gen 2 a much better riding truck than the 2023? Or would putting the older truck in a softer mode have addressed my issue? I really liked the '23 overall, I just wouldn't want to drive long distance with that rough a ride (which felt harsh even on the freeway).

Let me know what you think.

What @TollKeeper said is right on point. I had debated between a used Gen 1 and a new Gen 2. The incredible value of a used Gen 1 quad was too tempting to pass up. A lof ot the factory tires seem to get noisy about half way through their lifespan or toward the end. Just swap them out for something else later. I had 21's and 20's on my Gen 1 quad R1T and the 20's do ride better.

Hi everyone -

Moderate time lurking spent unregistered, and now here hoping to get into an R1T. Transitioning from a Model 3 Performance and a Gladiator - it seems like the R1T welds those two fairly perfectly.

Welcome to the forum. What year M3P? Are you leaning toward new or used R1T?

 

[Mrthetank]

What @TollKeeper said is right on point. I had debated between a used Gen 1 and a new Gen 2. The incredible value of a used Gen 1 quad was too tempting to pass up. A lof ot the factory tires seem to get noisy about half way through their lifespan or toward the end. Just swap them out for something else later. I had 21's and 20's on my Gen 1 quad R1T and the 20's do ride better.


Welcome to the forum. What year M3P? Are you leaning toward new or used R1T?

Thanks - I have a 2023 M3P; it's been great - the prefect proof of concept into the full EV world. Definitely going to the used market for the R1T and just reached out to a recent marketplace post that is in my area.
I've been surfing the various threads for a while now, and looking to step that up, as I hope to make the transition to an R1T in the next month (or so - willing to be patient for the right truck!).

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