Off Road Package for R1T LE ?

[sevengroove]

Why wouldn't a car resale place factor in the packages to the price they are willing to pay you? The VIN will pull up all of the equipment on the vehicle.

I didn't say they wouldn't. They definitely will factor it in. The point I'm making to the OP is that the delta change in your trade-in value will be less than the original cost of the option. So the $2k OP spent for it will translate into a "less than $2k" valuation when they trade it in down the road. If OP does not plan on using the features of that package at all, it does not make sense to get that package just for the resale value.

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[thrill]

I didn't say they wouldn't. They definitely will factor it in. The point I'm making to the OP is that the delta change in your trade-in value will be less than the original cost of the option. So the $2k OP spent for it will translate into a "less than $2k" valuation when they trade it in down the road. If OP does not plan on using the features of that package at all, it does not make sense to get that package just for the resale value.

However NOT having the offroad package may result in a *greater* than $2000 lower price offering.

 

[Taycanfrank]

However NOT having the offroad package may result in a *greater* than $2000 lower price offering.

That's absolute nonsense and every data point on car sales says so.

Very few options on cars hold ANY residual value and those that do only retain a 20-40% residual on average. Specifically this tends to be upgraded wheels and sound systems. Go look at the data.

It's a silly, absurd proposition to option a car based on resale. Get the options you want. The only exception is if you're choosing "weird" options, ie.. people that spec a purple Porsche w/lime green interior.

 

[astonius]

The only exception is if you're choosing "weird" options, ie.. people that spec a purple Porsche w/lime green interior.

Like Red Canyon/Forest Edge. Christmas truck.

Santa Claus spec.

 

[sevengroove]

That's absolute nonsense and every data point on car sales says so.

Very few options on cars hold ANY residual value and those that do only retain a 20-40% residual on average. Specifically this tends to be upgraded wheels and sound systems. Go look at the data.

Thank you, couldn't have said it better.

It's a silly, absurd proposition to option a car based on resale. Get the options you want. The only exception is if you're choosing "weird" options, ie.. people that spec a purple Porsche w/lime green interior.

Like Red Canyon/Forest Edge. Christmas truck.

Santa Claus spec.

One that's relevant to Rivians is the Launch Green color. If it's a limited run with no further offerings, there is a slight chance it nets you a gain on the value.

 

[Dark-Fx]

That's absolute nonsense and every data point on car sales says so.

Very few options on cars hold ANY residual value and those that do only retain a 20-40% residual on average. Specifically this tends to be upgraded wheels and sound systems. Go look at the data.

It's a silly, absurd proposition to option a car based on resale. Get the options you want. The only exception is if you're choosing "weird" options, ie.. people that spec a purple Porsche w/lime green interior.

DCFC was a $750 option on Bolt EVs. It translates to a *much* lower resale price if you didn't take it, because the option is so desirable. I imagine the off-road package for a vehicle meant to be taken off-road could have a similar consequence.

 

[kylealden]

DCFC was a $750 option on Bolt EVs. It translates to a *much* lower resale price if you didn't take it, because the option is so desirable. I imagine the off-road package for a vehicle meant to be taken off-road could have a similar consequence.

This is pretty dubious; DCFC is a categorical change in vehicle capability that the aftermarket couldn't replace. Meanwhile the R1T is a capable offroader any way you slice it; the offroad package (like almost any OEM offroad package) just offers some partial protection and recovery flexibility. Not only can the aftermarket fill that gap, but it will do a better job; serious offroaders are going to spec out custom bumpers, winches, rock rails, skid plates, racks, etc.

Ultimately I think others are right that this isn't some exotic/limited feature that should trouble you for resale value. If you don't plan to do any offroading (or even if your definition of "offroading" is generally forest service roads and public trailheads), skip it and save $2000. More significantly, you'll save some extra weight, which will improve your range.

 

[Sgt Beavis]

This is pretty dubious; DCFC is a categorical change in vehicle capability that the aftermarket couldn't replace. Meanwhile the R1T is a capable offroader any way you slice it; the offroad package (like almost any OEM offroad package) just offers some partial protection and recovery flexibility. Not only can the aftermarket fill that gap, but it will do a better job; serious offroaders are going to spec out custom bumpers, winches, rock rails, skid plates, racks, etc.

This is the biggest reason I would skip the Offroad upgrade pkg. I need to get a good look at an R1T, with the package, in order to make a decision on it.

 

[ads75]

DCFC was a $750 option on Bolt EVs. It translates to a *much* lower resale price if you didn't take it, because the option is so desirable. I imagine the off-road package for a vehicle meant to be taken off-road could have a similar consequence.

You are comparing an option that practically every driver cares about and will actually use (faster charging) verse an option a minority will ever use (off road). The cosmetic difference between standard and off road aren't that much different. It's not like comparing a Raptor verse F150 XLT. Right now, in southeastern Pennsylvania, if I want to take my Jeep and play in trails for a day, I have to drive 60 miles there, pay admission, play and drive trails for the day, and drive 60 miles home. Not a great use case for getting the off road package for most people. Sure, not getting the off road package may matter to a few people when re-selling, but a lot of people won't care either way, it will still get them back and forth to work, the store, and on most vacations the same as the off road package. Whether the off road package is should be worth more than a color (blue or yellow) may be a different discussion. Right now I plan getting off road package, but may drop it if different tax incentives (like a price cap) come into play.

 

[cmiller]

seems like a waste of money just for some tow hooks and reinforced underbody shielding. Rivian had already said the protection is pretty good since it can be taken off road and the battery needs protection in the first place.

 

[Dark-Fx]

You are comparing an option that practically every driver cares about and will actually use (faster charging) verse an option a minority will ever use (off road). The cosmetic difference between standard and off road aren't that much different. It's not like comparing a Raptor verse F150 XLT. Right now, in southeastern Pennsylvania, if I want to take my Jeep and play in trails for a day, I have to drive 60 miles there, pay admission, play and drive trails for the day, and drive 60 miles home. Not a great use case for getting the off road package for most people. Sure, not getting the off road package may matter to a few people when re-selling, but a lot of people won't care either way, it will still get them back and forth to work, the store, and on most vacations the same as the off road package. Whether the off road package is should be worth more than a color (blue or yellow) may be a different discussion. Right now I plan getting off road package, but may drop it if different tax incentives (like a price cap) come into play.

I'd suggest a much much higher percentage of raptor owners would be using the vehicles off road versus an XLT. People that only look at their own use case is what directs them to buying the trims and options they want. Someone buying a Bolt entirely for commuting and city driving, doesn't ever take long trips, won't need the DCFC option. I know of at least one person in real life that didn't take it, because he wouldn't need it, and regrets it because of the difference in resale value.

Trying to compare my argument to "everyone should buy a raptor because what if the next owner wants to offroad" is a strawman.

 

[Sgt Beavis]

seems like a waste of money just for some tow hooks and reinforced underbody shielding. Rivian had already said the protection is pretty good since it can be taken off road and the battery needs protection in the first place.

This falls into the “it depends” category. A full underbody skid plate from Metalcloak goes for $1500-1700. That’s an aluminum system. Quality to hooks can cost over $200. The Rivian Off Road kit is carbon fiber. I suspect it’s very durable but I won’t know until I see it first hand. My concern is a report that the panels were held in place with plastic connectors. I need to see it for myself and decide if it’s strong enough for the off roading I do or if I can easily mod it for my needs.

If it’s a quality skid plate, then the pricing and install costs are not out of line.

 

[cmiller]

This falls into the “it depends” category. A full underbody skid plate from Metalcloak goes for $1500-1700. That’s an aluminum system. Quality to hooks can cost over $200. The Rivian Off Road kit is carbon fiber. I suspect it’s very durable but I won’t know until I see it first hand. My concern is a report that the panels were held in place with plastic connectors. I need to see it for myself and decide if it’s strong enough for the off roading I do or if I can easily mod it for my needs.

If it’s a quality skid plate, then the pricing and install costs are not out of line.

Also depends on how much the skid place covers. They don't say if it's total underbody protection. If it's just a front skid plate then I would pass. The only thing that sucks is that the aftermarket will most likely be slow to pop out parts since this isn't a widely popular truck. Hell, even for my bronco the aftermarket is still kinda slow to release stuff and that is far more popular.

 

[koersontap]

Like Red Canyon/Forest Edge. Christmas truck.

Santa Claus spec.

 

[Sgt Beavis]

Also depends on how much the skid place covers. They don't say if it's total underbody protection. If it's just a front skid plate then I would pass. The only thing that sucks is that the aftermarket will most likely be slow to pop out parts since this isn't a widely popular truck. Hell, even for my bronco the aftermarket is still kinda slow to release stuff and that is far more popular.

Agreed on all of this. Pictures I've seen make it appear that just about every square inch of the underside is covered. However, I need to get a good look in person. I'd like to see one with and one without to compare.

Worse case, for me, is that I skip the package and have my little brother fabricate it from aluminum.

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