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$RIVN after hours down 4%.

From the Shareholder letter:

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"We experienced a loss from operations in the first quarter of 2024 totaling $(1,484) million, as compared to $(1,433) million in the same period last year."

"Our net loss for the first quarter of 2024 was $(1,446) million as compared to $(1,349) million for the same period last year."

" The inventory as of March 31, 2024 was written down by $328 million for LCNRV. Additionally there were LCNRV losses related to firm purchase commitments of $45 million. We recorded a $150 million charge to reflect the LCNRV of inventory and losses on firm purchase commitments as of March 31, 2024."

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" We also announced that we will start R2 production in Normal which we expect to drive greater capital efficiency with over $2.25 billion of savings from plan, enable production to start in the first half of 2026, and reduce risk to launch the platform and associated ramp. We believe that the operating plan for our Normal factory at 215,000 units of annual production while executing against our cost efficiency roadmap will allow Rivian to generate positive free cash flow excluding growth capital investments in new production capacity and tooling. "

" Total expected Normal capacity following R2 launch and plant changes: 215,000 units of total annual capacity across R1T, R1S, EDV, RCV, and R2. This includes up to 155,000 units of R2."
[note: paint shop capacity around 150k/year as discussed on the call.]

" As a result of the retooling upgrade, we expect significant improvement in the material, depreciation, and conversion cost of our vehicles and remain confident in our path to achieving modest gross profit in the fourth quarter of this year."

" Thus far, consistent with our expectations, we have hit all major milestones associated with the plant retooling upgrade, and we are reaffirming our 2024 annual guidance provided during our fourth quarter and fiscal year 2023 earnings call of 57,000 total units of production and $(2,700) million in adjusted EBITDA."

"... reduce the capital expenditures required to launch R2. Because of this we are lowering our capital expenditures guidance to $1,200 million, a reduction of $550 million. We also expect savings from moving the R2 launch to Normal to impact 2025 and 2026."
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Yes cost reduction, but people need to remember cost reduction doesn't mean worse or improvements won't be made. It can often mean that you make a minor change on a part for a big cost cut, and roll in all the irrelevant fixes to that at the same time. It means you eliminate old chips going out of production with the cheaper, newer, faster chip. It means you upgrade communication to reduce harness cost. There are also many things that HAVE to happen this year due to supply issues, it make sense to push forward an upgrade to avoid a mid-year upgrade. Battery pack gets reconfigured for manufacturing, and cooling issues discovered are fixed.

I expect significant minor upgrades, things like camera improvements, because a 4-year old 1080p camera isn't cheaper than a brand new 1440p camera.
Yes, precisely this.
 

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UBS with the last question. He's asking about paint shop capacity of 215k units. Current capacity is 150k units.
 

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Future looks good..time to buy more stock

Im guessing the 392 unit difference between produced and delivered are Amazon EDVs that Amazon does'nt have a home for.
Using the Q4 report numbers thats about another 35MLN in revenue sitting somewhere.

There were a ton of Amazon trucks on the lot in Normal when i visited in July
 

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Not sure why people expected anything of substance from a company who's been as tight lipped as Rivian has historically been.
 

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Sounds like Sandy sent some good cost savings tips to RJ.

it will be interesting to see what the cost savings impact will be per vehicle built going forward.

I welcome all the cost savings and efficiency enhancements Rivian can eek out as an upside down shareholder.
 

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That’s a lot of unsold inventory
They said some had missing parts and couldn't be sold. For exactly how long that was the case, not sure.

Not sure why people expected anything of substance from a company who's been as tight lipped as Rivian has historically been.
It was strange. They mentioned the refresh numerous times while being careful to not state anything that a customer would find as a benefit.

Rivian made no mention of when they would start delivering the new models or any other information. Very odd.
 

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They said some had missing parts and couldn't be sold. For exactly how long that was the case, not sure.



It was strange. They mentioned the refresh numerous times while being careful to not state anything that a customer would find as a benefit.

Rivian made no mention of when they would start delivering the new models or any other information. Very odd.
Claire said 25% reduction in inventory planned. Big return to working capital over next 18 months
 
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They said some had missing parts and couldn't be sold. For exactly how long that was the case, not sure.



It was strange. They mentioned the refresh numerous times while being careful to not state anything that a customer would find as a benefit.

Rivian made no mention of when they would start delivering the new models or any other information. Very odd.
The expectation that others have voiced, which makes sense, is that Rivian doesn't want to give people a reason to hold off on purchase of an already built vehicle when they have a large inventory if they have tangible expectations of significant improvements.
 

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Interesting that max R2 production is 155k leaving 60k for EDV and R1. This makes sense because the sustainable North American market for R1 is likely around the 40k figure (a little below where they are now) and they can then maintain pricing power and not chase sales.
 

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Interesting that max R2 production is 155k leaving 60k for EDV and R1. This makes sense because the sustainable North American market for R1 is likely around the 40k figure (a little below where they are now) and they can then maintain pricing power and not chase sales.
Claire also pointed out that they will have flexibility to run different mixes of production based on demand - they can pick from up to 85k run rate for R1, 60k for EDV/RCV, and once R2 is up and running up to 155k.
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