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If I've got $15k plus on the line, I'm not going to sit around waiting for an email. OP should chalk this up to a valuable life lesson learned the hard way.
Plus he missed retaining the tax credit. It's meaningful money for most people.

Obviously he has not been working on getting the old price reinstated since April. He has regrets six months after the deadline. Rivian should have done better operationally with customer contact, but that doesn't obligate them to reinstate the old price this long after the fact.
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100% agree. To cancel immediately on news of a price increase, then to sit on your hands when they retract it 2 days later is....
I really don't get the issue. Its unprecedented with long order times, chip shortages, war, and inflation....They walked it back which was nice (I still betting most people over 50% didn't cancle their order) and they also offer a solution to secure federal tax credit....

Ummm or you can be like Ford Lightning and say 10k increase, take it or leave it. OR Tesla here is a 6k increase too bad.... This is same with Lucid as well....

I rather them stay in business...
 

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Plus he missed retaining the tax credit. It's meaningful money for most people.

Obviously he has not been working on getting the old price reinstated since April. He has regrets six months after the deadline. Rivian should have done better operationally with customer contact, but that doesn't obligate them to reinstate the old price this long after the fact.
Totally agree with you.... I also worked in IT for a long time, info@ or marketing@ or whatever would 100% be filtered out.... I dunno why he didn't use a personal address. This would be the same with most communications to other companies. Would have been easy to change email address to resolve this really non-existent problem
 

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Totally agree with you.... I also worked in IT for a long time, info@ or marketing@ or whatever would 100% be filtered out.... I dunno why he didn't use a personal address. This would be the same with most communications to other companies. Would have been easy to change email address to resolve this really non-existent problem
I use a rivian@ address and the service center initially had their system designate me as an employee. That is what I would consider a bug.
 

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Like I said, they wont respond to my emails. When I call, I get a brand new customer service person that has no idea who I am, each time I explain my situation and provide them with my contact information, they say they cant find ANYTHING in their system that I have called or emailed about this issue. I responded to the email I posted earlier attempting to show my evidence and got nothing back. They openly admit their email system had a bug which prevented me from receiving correspondence from them, yet they wont reinstate me.
I think anyone who has dealt with AT&T or Samsung customer service can sympathize with your situation. I can cite MANY examples where I've spent countless hours being bounced around to various departments etc. each time being told there was no record of the many conversations that I've previously had. I've learned the hard way that written correspondence of some form is really the only way to ensure that you have some sort of defensible paper trail to resolve these sorts of issues. I'm guessing the main issue you are having here is that your primary method of resolving the issue was via phone (especially in the early stages after the window has passed) and that there is no easy way for you to prove those conversations took place. I would suggest the following (though likely a low probability of success). Get all of your evidence together in one place (sent emails, received emails, call logs, a detailed history of the conversations you claim to have had etc.) Keep in mind that it's easy to 'fake stamps' on emails so unless they also have a log that matches your email claims they can and will discard it. Then I would call CS, ask to have a 1:1 conversation with a supervisor, and then walk through your evidence in detail. Above all be polite, as being aggressive will only hurt your cause. I have had some success with the above approach in the past, but definitely not 100% of the time. Good luck to you.
 

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The letter stated they would be sending out emails so I waited about a month. The email isnt "lost", they openly admit they never sent it.
Have you tried to stalk them on LinkedIn yet to find someone who can help? Keep shouting, blow RJ on Twitter etc... keep it up, contact EV journalist, etc... someone will finally "reach out" and fix it, really the only recourse you have at this point.
 

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Have you tried to stalk them on LinkedIn yet to find someone who can help? Keep shouting, blow RJ on Twitter etc... keep it up, contact EV journalist, etc... someone will finally "reach out" and fix it, really the only recourse you have at this point.
Really, make this a huge Rivian issue?

OP overreacted with the immediate cancel and then under-reacted on reinstating the pre-order, now let’s blame everyone else.

Seriously, it sucks that it happened but bad things happen all the time.
 

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Guys, don't forget it's because of folks like this who had the balls to cancel, that we ALL got back our "original pricing". He was on the front line, and I thank him for that.

I hope he can find some communication proving they dropped the ball. If not, unfortunately, that going to land on him as it has.
 

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Really, make this a huge Rivian issue?

OP overreacted with the immediate cancel and then under-reacted on reinstating the pre-order, now let’s blame everyone else.

Seriously, it sucks that it happened but bad things happen all the time.
Yeah make it an issue when a company doesn't take the decency to honor their agreements and own up to their mistakes, hold their feet to the fire. When companies are too big to ignore things like this or don't give you an avenue to state your case, that's a problem.

What would you do in their shoes? Wait another 2 years for your truck and pay 20% more, all while not getting your federal rebate? I'd bet you'd be pissed too. Someone at some level at Rivian has to care, and if they don't then that should be out in the public domain.
 

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I use a rivian@ address and the service center initially had their system designate me as an employee. That is what I would consider a bug.
I do the same companyname@ thing with my own domain but when things are really important I use a gmail account so it looks “normal” to systems and the people who use them.
 

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Yeah make it an issue when a company doesn't take the decency to honor their agreements and own up to their mistakes, hold their feet to the fire. When companies are too big to ignore things like this or don't give you an avenue to state your case, that's a problem.

What would you do in their shoes? Wait another 2 years for your truck and pay 20% more, all while not getting your federal rebate? I'd bet you'd be pissed too. Someone at some level at Rivian has to care, and if they don't then that should be out in the public domain.
I know what a deal I have but to be honest I never canceled my original pre-order. The statements on all of the documentation I saw said prices/options were not fixed and could change so was not that surprised with what was happening with prices everywhere.

There were no prices discussed when I placed my pre-order and based off the listed specs and what the Tesla Model X was selling for I budgeted 125k when I placed the pre-order. I expected the initial deliveries to be in that ballpark.

What I would have done if I were him is waited for a bit to think about the new pricing before canceling the reservation. Had he waited there would be no issue. A lot of people think the cancellations prompted the rollback but it was more the immediate firestorm of feedback than the immediate cancellations.

What I did do being me, was look at the new prices and decide if it was still a good value for me, for me it was so I still planned on moving forward with the purchase. Sure I was happier with the old price and like a tax incentive if I can get it I will take it so am not volunteering to pay the higher price but would have.

Look at the price of a base Model X today, it is 120k.
 

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Yeah make it an issue when a company doesn't take the decency to honor their agreements and own up to their mistakes, hold their feet to the fire. When companies are too big to ignore things like this or don't give you an avenue to state your case, that's a problem.

What would you do in their shoes? Wait another 2 years for your truck and pay 20% more, all while not getting your federal rebate? I'd bet you'd be pissed too. Someone at some level at Rivian has to care, and if they don't then that should be out in the public domain.
This is arguably a BIG problem for OP but a tiny one-off issue for Rivian. In this case OP chose to cancel the order as a form of protest of the price hike. Many other people did the same thing. It shouldn’t have caused any problems except for the [email protected] email address.

As something with monetary value to OP, it was important (to them) that they get the order reinstated at pre-debacle pricing. I think the problem is that OP didn’t treat this task as if it was worth $12,000+. Call me paranoid, but the first thing I would’ve done was send an email to CS asking what the process was just to make sure that Rivian knew it was important to me. Then, if I didn’t get any communication in a couple days, I would’ve followed up with a chat, which I’d save to a note.

This doesn’t seem to be a systemic issue where Rivian screwed over tens, hundreds, or thousands of (former) customers. If there was anyone else who canceled and didn’t get the subsequent communication to reinstate, either they followed up and got reinstated, they moved on because they were so put off by the experience, etc. We haven’t seen any other reports of this, have we? Rivian gave the canceled order holders the notice via a process which seems to have worked 100% of the time minus one unfortunate individual. I don’t think Rivian is obligated to do anything, even though OP wrote Rivian admitted they filtered out certain email addresses as spurious.
 

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They've admitted the cause of this is their system glitch, they never sent an email they said they were going to send, the poster called every month for several months, this isn't a case of let me wait 6 months and then pick up the phone.

Funny how many people are hiding behind the fact that "i never canceled my order" etc ... imagine if Rivian reinstated the pricing but never gave anyone on here an opportunity to reinstate your order for "prematurely canceling", how pissed would everyone have been? They only reversed course because the damage was too far/wide to their reputation not because they legally had to, so because this is one person in a special circumstance we should just say tough luck, go kick rocks?

If the problem is so infrequent it shouldn't be a big ask for Rivian to reinstate their preorder and make it right. And at the bare minimum do the proper diligence and look into the situation instead of robotic responses such as, you missed the deadline. There are circumstances to those reasons and Rivian is substantially to blame. If original poster can prove to them he called before the deadline (with phone records) and Rivian has no record of the call, clearly something is wrong with Rivian's systems and they can't trust their information and make such a heavy handed judgement.
 

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What a long thread and yet OP still has it shown any proof that he had contacted Rivian prior to the 3/20 deadline.
It sucks but it’s going to be okay. It’s just a car.
 

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.....When companies are too big to ignore things like this or don't give you an avenue to state your case, that's a problem.....

They've admitted the cause of this is their system glitch, they never sent an email they said they were going to send, the poster called every month for several months, this isn't a case of let me wait 6 months and then pick up the phone.
Actually, the OP has described a process in which Rivian allowed him to extensively make his case. Rivian has simply denied him.

The OP states he called regularly, but unfortunately not before March 20. It wasn't a case of him waiting six months to call but it was a case of him waiting for more than three weeks to call in regards to something with a three week deadline.

OP is a member here. This was a very hot topic of discussion on Rivian Forums and on every relevant internet site. If it was that important to OP, he would have figured it out just like everyone else did.

I do thank OP for his service in cancelling his order; saved me from having to do so.
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