Stay classy Rivian drivers.

[kizamybute']

Sadly most of the repeat DUI offenders are alcoholics and punishment has little to no effect on drug addicts. You’re assuming it’s someone like yourself or the typical polite society member who thinks about other people when they do things.

People who are habitual offenders of deadly things like DUI have some pretty messed up lives so much so that putting them in prison wouldn’t even do much to them. I don’t know what the answer is but punishing someone who hates themselves or their lives so much that they are willing to drink themselves to death doesn’t seem that effective.

Most alcoholics or drug addicts are punishing themselves already with their drug use. Some societies have had luck with things like social housing and rehabilitation, maybe that would work here. In the places where the government provides social housing for these people it proves to be cheaper than throwing them in prison or allowing them to just exist in society committing crimes.

I do agree that things like DUI are not tolerable in society though. I just don’t know how to actually fix it. It’s easy mentally to just say up the punishment but there are people with 3+ DUIs that get mandatory prison sentences of years for each conviction still driving drunk. When prison isn’t any worse than their lives are now I think trying something new might be the answer.

You're probably right. For people that are complete addicts or alcoholics, that simply return right to what they were doing the second they get out of jail, no, you're likely not going to help them.

My thinking was more for the ones that do seem to have half a brain but then make poor decisions on occasion. Naturally, it only takes one accident for things to turn really bad.

I have no clue what the story is of the guy in the video, but have to guess that he's at least had some success if he can afford a Rivian?? I know a lot of smart people, many who make a fortune that also like to over drink when they do drink. They don't drink every single day, but when they do, they way over do it. As friends, we never let them drive themselves home.

But, for those kind of people, being forced to spend 30 days in jail would be a real shock to their system. Would damage their careers and possibly their families. For those types, they likely would be smart enough to make a better decision once you've had too much to drink.

But, even for some that are addicted, spending 30 days in Jail does force you to sober up for 30 days. For those that are addicted and realize they are addicted but haven't been able to help themselves, that chance to sober up could do them a lot of good.

My overall point though, as of now, in most areas, there's really no penalty for doing so once, twice or even three times. Possibly when you get into serious repeat offenders (at least those that get caught), they might finally start getting a little tougher. Again through, it only takes once to do real damage and the penalty should reflect that.

Judges will have to decide what's best for each individual, but a standard penalty in place would assist them in doing that.

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[Donald Stanfield]

You're probably right. For people that are complete addicts or alcoholics, that simply return right to what they were doing the second they get out of jail, no, you're likely to help them.

My thinking was more for the ones that do seem to have half a brain but then make poor decisions on occasion. Naturally, it only takes one accident for things to turn really bad.

I have no clue what the story is of the guy in the video, but have to guess that he's at least had some success if he can afford a Rivian?? I know a lot of smart people, many who make a fortune that also like to over drink when they do drink. They don't drink every single day, but when they do, they way over do it. As friends, we never let them drive themselves home.

But, for those kind of people, being forced to spend 30 days in jail would be a real shock to their system. Would damage their careers and possibly their families. For those types, they likely would be smart enough to make a better decision once you've had too much to drink.

But, even for some that are addicted, spending 30 days in Jail does force you to sober up for 30 days. For those that are addicted and realize they are addicted but haven't been able to help themselves, that chance to sober up could do them a lot of good.

My overall point though, as of now, in most areas, there's really no penalty for doing so once, twice or even three times. Possibly when you get into serious repeat offenders (at least those that get caught), they might finally start getting a little tougher. Again through, it only takes once to do real damage and the penalty should reflect that.

Judges will have to decide what's best for each individual, but a standard penalty in place would assist them in doing that.

Yeah that sounds reasonable. I think at the very least they should be forced to have an interlock installed on their cars for at least a year after even your first DUI. Those seem to work pretty well

 

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

What's the TL;DR? Ain't nobody got time for a 30 minute video of a DUI arrest.

Well, I guess some of y'all have time to watch it, LOL. ?‍?

 

[the_mace]

Not condoning this in any way but to be fair any time I see some dirt or grass since I got the R1T I want to go drive on it.

 

[el_scorcho]

just testing off-road mode?

 

[Tango45]

Guys, DUIs are heavily regulated and typically subject to mandatory minimum sentences such as one night in jail. It seems in America they are a dime a dozen and essentially tolerated unlike in other places...

I watched the video and I don't really understand the hate on the guy driving other than he's a idiot. Supposedly the cop knew the guy and was reluctant to take him in. Can you imagine the police had no one to respond. That shows you Florida priorities and proves my point that the DUI is are businesses usual. Love to read about all the hate but nobody really cares.

I think the guy exercised his right to remain silent. That's a smart thing to do.

I'm genuinely puzzled by this response. You watched the whole thing, right? There's also a Part 2. He did not exercise his right to remain silent and instead attempted to antagonize the police officer by insulting his daughter and attacking her based on his perception that she has a weight problem. Stunning really that the police officer did not create a situation that would have allowed him to use force.

In part 2 the driver goes on to gloat about his fancy truck and then play games about how they can gain access to it as the police and the tow guy go way beyond the call of duty to try and avoid damaging the vehicle.

 

[Tango45]

Did not see #2, but I will check my shoes.

I really don't. The shoes thing, I mean. I'm so confused.

 

[the_mace]

Crazy how much they tried. Why didnt they just power on his phone and walk up to the truck with it?

 

[WSea]

I really don't. The shoes thing, I mean. I'm so confused.

Pretty sure he's sating he stepped in "it"

 

[the_mace]

General advice is to never give the police your powered cell phone. You give them the ability to search.
Only an issue if you have things on your phone...don't think they'd care about mine....

In the case of PaaK you dont have to unlock the phone so i'm not sure that's the same concern there but they said something about powering it down before that. Not sure if PaaK comes back up after you power cycle the phone or if you need to run the Rivian app once. Something to test.

 

[BourboNole]

Guys, DUIs are heavily regulated and typically subject to mandatory minimum sentences such as one night in jail. It seems in America they are a dime a dozen and essentially tolerated unlike in other places...

I watched the video and I don't really understand the hate on the guy driving other than he's a idiot. Supposedly the cop knew the guy and was reluctant to take him in. Can you imagine the police had no one to respond. That shows you Florida priorities and proves my point that the DUI is are businesses usual. Love to read about all the hate but nobody really cares.

I think the guy exercised his right to remain silent. That's a smart thing to do.

Florida priorities? Its a bad look that they didn't have any other available officers but if anything this officer's actions show a well trained state police force.

Edited to remove unnecessary comment about Washington State policing.

 

[Donald Stanfield]

Edit to remove political comment and protect the edit of a fellow member

 

[BourboNole]

Yeah I can’t remember the last time some city in Florida allowed part of it to be declared and autonomous zone and attempt to cede from the USA. Oh wait, that never happened anywhere besides Chaz/Chop.

That was my initial thought, but I did just decide to edit my prior comment because my point was to call out an unnecessary and in my opinion invalid attack on FL, not to attack Washington State.

 

[Count Orlok]

General advice is to never give the police your powered cell phone. You give them the ability to search.
Only an issue if you have things on your phone...don't think they'd care about mine....

Show me the man and I’ll show you the crime

~L. Beria

 

[Donald Stanfield]

That was my initial thought, but I did just decide to edit my prior comment because my point was to call out an unnecessary and in my opinion invalid attack on FL, not to attack Washington State.

I just edited and deleted mine to get rid of my unnecessarily political play of your unnecessary comment. For as much as I complain about others making politically charged comments in here I shouldn’t be doing it either. Thanks for pointing that out.

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