Tesla trade-ins data

[captainjp]

Does Elon pay you to cheerlead for him on here? He should.

I almost think it’s the man, himself.

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[Gr8Sail]

Counterpoint.. at the right price every vehicle sells, and the people getting the great deals on the "dumped/discounted" Tesla's will be the new loyal Tesla customers of the future who will purchase second vehicles, need repairs, etc. Loose one/gain one...

The secondary market will not support a company. Tesla (aka any company) needs to sell new product off the assembly line. People buying a discounted used car won't sustain a production enterprise.

 

[caged.danimal]

We just traded our Model Y for an R1S. Had zero to do with Elon (I actually like him) and everything to do with us just wanting a larger vehicle. I feel like this is more Tesla not offering what many Americans want which is large vehicles of excess.

I know right. How can you not like a narcissist billionaire that has the mental capacity of a 12 y/o and constantly lies and does everything in his over inflated power to harm the less fortunate.

 

[RedRaiderRivian]

The fact that you are using lidar and radar interchangably makes me believe you have little experience with lidar at all.

If you knew anything about the mark rober video, he used AUTOPILOT not FSD. There was a follow up video made by someone else which shows that FSD on HW4 does clearly see the wall. Autopilot does not have the occupancy network that full self driving uses.


Tesla would not have solved self driving if they were using lidar or radar. With vision you can drive exactly like a human does. That means driving slower in adverse conditions.

Waymo has the most advanced sensor suite, powerful compute, HD mapping and they still have limitations.

I am not using them interchangeably. Read my post and actually gain some knowledge of physics. I have owned radar based ACC vehicles since 2004 and am acutely aware of the difference. Mark Rober's video had not been proven wrong by any actual scientist or engineer. In fact that video has been proven to show that he was using FSD until less than a second before the wall. Only armchair Tesla fanboys like yourself have claimed it is wrong.

I never claimed that lidar or radar would solve self driving. I simply said that they fill in gaps of information that Tesla never will with vision. I vote with my dollars and will never own a Tesla because they ARE NOT SAFE. You be Elmo's crash test DUMMY and shill. I chose not to.

 

[DavidMillett]

Read this on a Hugf Post article.


As Tesla CEO Elon Musk implores his employees not to sell their stock even though “it feels like Armageddon,” Tesla owners are trading in their vehicles at record levels.


That’s according to data tracked by the U.S. car shopping website Edmunds, which found that March 2025 represents the “highest ever share” on record of Tesla trade-ins toward new or used purchases at dealerships.

Teslas accounted for 1.4% of the cars traded in through March 15, up nearly 300% from the same month last year, when just 0.4% of trade-ins were Teslas.

Life is just not black and white. Musk is a fraud, a liar, and a cheat. But he did help start the transition away from fossil fuel-based transportation. Just goes to show that even bad people can do good things.

 

[ukyank]

Boomer fight!

 

[andrewgrhogg]

I dont think Musk started out as a bad person. I mean he was no saint and he had issues as far back as PayPal, but i think his heart was in the right place. But over time you can see that his decision making and attitude to employees has slowly but surely gone over a cliff. This happens when people get successful and wealthy and they think their shit dont stink any more. You see this all the time in the valley, where people who have success (wealth from stock options, IPO, whatever) think they are somehow different and more special from the 1000's of other people who didnt make it. They don't understand that for almost all of them they were just more lucky - not smarter or harder working. And you can see this with Musk....and its only getting worse.

As for "bad people can do good things", if you actually understand History you can say the same about some very bad people, including Stalin and Hitler. So that missive isn't some excuse for their bad behavior...

 

[captainjp]

I dont think Musk started out as a bad person. I mean he was no saint and he had issues as far back as PayPal, but i think his heart was in the right place. But over time you can see that his decision making and attitude to employees has slowly but surely gone over a cliff. This happens when people get successful and wealthy and they think their shit dont stink any more. You see this all the time in the valley, where people who have success (wealth from stock options, IPO, whatever) think they are somehow different and more special from the 1000's of other people who didnt make it. They don't understand that for almost all of them they were just more lucky - not smarter or harder working. And you can see this with Musk....and its only getting worse.

As for "bad people can do good things", if you actually understand History you can say the same about some very bad people, including Stalin and Hitler. So that missive isn't some excuse for their bad behavior...

He’s a megalomaniac in the truest sense.

 

[JM.]

This Tesla dumping may finally be the catalyst to re-value TSLA to something that approximates rationality.

Nah, it's still a meme stock, even at half price. I sold at $419 per share, literally 30 minutes before the bottom dropped out. Not for politics directly, I don't give one shit about that, but because I knew politics would kill the brand.

 

[JM.]

Ironically it's working in that conservative EV haters are now buying Tesla just to piss off Dems.

Amazing that people who can't afford a carton of eggs without getting a third mortgage on their mobile home are now buying a semi-luxury EV.

 

[bigsky]

As somebody famous said many times, here's the deal for me.
My glorious Tesla Model S Performance and my equally glorious Tesla Model Y Performance are the bestest, most magnificent cars I have owned. Stunning engineering marvels.
When I bought them, I did so not considering, indeed not ever thinking or basing my purchase of them on what one person said, did, or thought at the time. And I sure as hell do not own my Teslas today based on whatever somebody does, says, or thinks today, period. Bought and own my Teslas on the merits only.

As true as the sun rising, my magnificent Teslas shall continue to sit in my garage, and I shall drive and enjoy them for years to come until they go no more.

So go ahead, dox me all you want. Threaten Tesla owners all you want. All these terrorist liberal lunatics can all go to that proverbial place. Sheesh!

 

[SASSquatch]

Nah, it's still a meme stock, even at half price. I sold at $419 per share, literally 30 minutes before the bottom dropped out. Not for politics directly, I don't give one shit about that, but because I knew politics would kill the brand.

I sold when the stock took a big dip in 2023 and I've slept a lot better since even knowing I forfeited tens of thousands of dollars in profit since I usually make investments for the long term.

 

[Q-ship]

Nah, it's still a meme stock, even at half price. I sold at $419 per share, literally 30 minutes before the bottom dropped out. Not for politics directly, I don't give one shit about that, but because I knew politics would kill the brand.

I closed my position @440 in late Dec. Thought about waiting for $420, but decided I wanted the extra $20/share more than the lulz.

 

[pamalabama]

I am not using them interchangeably. Read my post and actually gain some knowledge of physics. I have owned radar based ACC vehicles since 2004 and am acutely aware of the difference. Mark Rober's video had not been proven wrong by any actual scientist or engineer. In fact that video has been proven to show that he was using FSD until less than a second before the wall. Only armchair Tesla fanboys like yourself have claimed it is wrong.

I never claimed that lidar or radar would solve self driving. I simply said that they fill in gaps of information that Tesla never will with vision. I vote with my dollars and will never own a Tesla because they ARE NOT SAFE. You be Elmo's crash test DUMMY and shill. I chose not to.

He was not using FSD. He was using autopilot and he disengaged autopilot by torquing the wheel. In two separate tests autopilot disengages when mark torques the wheel. In fact mark rober believed autopilot and FSD were the same which is why he did not test FSD. He also did not believe that you could just "turn on" FSD anywhere without a destination. Something that has been a feature since day one


Autopilot and FSD are not the same. FSD perception is better and runs their occupancy network. Autopilot is built to run on HW 2.0 which is a really weak computer in old tesla vehicles


Look at every single disengagement with FSD. How many of them are for gaps in vision? In 2025 basically none. Because tesla doesn't have a perception problem.

The current limitations of FSD are the inability to read certain road signs, the incorrect mapping they are using to drive, and not 100% perfect handling of the behavior around school buses and emergency vehicles

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