Trip Planning: Rivian Nav or ABRP?

[bdavis171]

What are you guys using for long road trips. The different routes suggested to me are quite different. Trying to plan Minneapolis to St. Louis....

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[mgc0216]

Didn't ABRP suggest (as an alternate) the same as Rivian and give the same estimate?

If so, It would be interesting to compare the alternate in ABRP and Rivian and see if ABRP is giving longer estimates for charge times or different % of when to stop?

 

[bdavis171]

The Rivian gave only the route shown with no other alternatives. It is 44 minutes longer using Rivian Nav vs ABRP. I think I'll be taking the ABRP and see how accurate the estimate charge levels are.

 

[SANZC02]

The Rivian gave only the route shown with no other alternatives. It is 44 minutes longer using Rivian Nav vs ABRP. I think I'll be taking the ABRP and see how accurate the estimate charge levels are.

44 minutes longer as taking you over a longer route? I wonder if the ABRP is seeing chargers Rivian is not aware of so does not think you can get there.

 

[whereismyr1t]

The Rivian route is 65 miles shorter, I would use that one and just have backup charging stops if the guess-o-meter is incorrect. I have found it to be pretty close though basing it on your historical driving efficiency. Unless ABRP is seeing traffic delays in that route that Rivian doesn’t.

 

[Big_Ike]

What are you guys using for long road trips. The different routes suggested to me are quite different. Trying to plan Minneapolis to St. Louis....

I don't have a R1anything yet, but I always plan my longer routes on ABRP and then use the recommendations of the in car nav (Tesla in my case) when I'm in the car.

 

[jjswan33]

I would trust ABRP. I have found in several cases that the Rivian suggested route was not ideal, in several cases I have had it fail to give me a route all together.

On those routes I’d be worried about that 1hr47min charge session, what is that charger. At least check into that. Also I have had the Rivian computer direct me to charging stations that were not in service (for example a EA station in Mojave CA).

Also in another example when going from SF to Portland, OR the Rivian wanted me to go through Klamath Falls and Bend rather than just taking I5 all the way. This while theoretically shorter distance went over a mountain pass or two and required some small 50kW stations. Cool route but no way it was faster than I5.

 

[Craigins]

The EA spot in Tomah is fairly new, perhaps it isn't in Rivian's database? If you take that route, let me know how it is. I may have to use that for getting up to Minocqua in the winter.

madison -> tomah -> Minocqua, not going to be enjoyable. Really hope they get the RAN built out soon.

 

[SeaGeo]

The only thing I'd note about ABRP is you may want to increase the reference efficiency up quite a bit. To achieve the 70mph range that OutofSpec got on their test loop I had to up it to about 2.75 mi/kwh. No idea how accurate ABRP is for other speeds with the R1T, but it should help get your estimated range at highway speed a bit closer.

 

[MNLightning]

My experience has been the native Rivian Map app is several generations behind when it comes to showing actual availability of existing chargers. I stopped using it because it is missing so many charging stations. Perhaps I’ve missed a major update but the current usability is more inline with something you would expect to see in a Chevy Bolt and doesn’t align with the rest of the R1T technology IMHO

 

[Riviot]

ABRP definitely takes a lot of tweaking the vehicle settings to get it to align with real world consumption. I stopped using it after updating the app on Android and making it impossible to use as the screen kept flickering black. I wrote them about this, hopefully it'll get fixed soon.

Rivian Nav doesn't give options and goes for the shortest distance, even if that requires a U-turn on a 2-lane road. And be careful with address locations, it routed me to the back of the Seattle Airport instead of drop off with no options for departures/arrivals/etc.

So pick your poison ?

 

[bdavis171]

The EA spot in Tomah is fairly new, perhaps it isn't in Rivian's database? If you take that route, let me know how it is. I may have to use that for getting up to Minocqua in the winter.

madison -> tomah -> Minocqua, not going to be enjoyable. Really hope they get the RAN built out soon.

Using the route generated in ABRP, but using the suggested charging times on the Rivian to piece together a plan. The Tomah stations was great!! Only car there. Here is the charging data I was seeing

 

[Craigins]

Using the route generated in ABRP, but using the suggested charging times on the Rivian to piece together a plan. The Tomah stations was great!! Only car there. Here is the charging data I was seeing

Thanks for the reply. I'm hoping that WI gets built out more. But at least the Tomah stop should be good!

 

[jjswan33]

Thanks for the reply. I'm hoping that WI gets built out more. But at least the Tomah stop should be good!

Looking forward to a station in Wausau so I can make it to my fathers place oh and more stations along I90 or I94 so I can make it over to the Midwest in the first place.

 

[Craigins]

Looking forward to a station in Wausau

Any info any a station? Plugshare shows an EA coming soon, but EA doesn't have anything listed.

Searched for permits issued in Wausau since the EA graphic showed a dot near Wausau and nothing.

Rivian had a dot around Wausau, but I doubt that will exist any time soon.

At least in the summer i can charge in Madison and should be able to make it as long as i keep the speed limit.

The 50kw in stevens point is currently down, and relying on a single plug in the middle of nowhere is never a good plan.

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