Update on timing now in account

[SolidTHX1138]

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[travisatwood]

Just curious if anyone has had their estimate change now that a week has gone by? Will Rivian be updating this estimate as time goes by?

 

[Halby]

Placed a reservation on July 5 after doing a test drive of an R1S that day. My account now says I will be invited to order Nov-Dec 2026. I'm in Fairfax County, VA.

 

[Zathras]

I know what they told everyone. Seems like a load of BS to me. The priority rankings may have order date, prior Rivian ownership, etc. in the rankings somewhere, but they're so far down the list so they basically don't exist in practicality.

YMMV

BS when it's pretty much happening as they said it would? If you look at the reservation list vs order list, the vast majority of people who are getting them early are early reservers.

 

[Zathras]

There’s also the fact that some estimates have EV sales as a percentage of all new auto sales in the US peaking in 2025, with hybrids the only growing segment in 2026 and beyond, replacing ICE.

Until people realize that for every 100,000 cars, 2300 hybrids burn, vs about 1,500 ICE cars burn, vs 25 EVs burn. When that becomes a known fact, attitudes will change.

 

[LevelHeaded]

Until people realize that for every 100,000 cars, 2300 hybrids burn, vs about 1,500 ICE cars burn, vs 25 EVs burn. When that becomes a known fact, attitudes will change.

I don't think the fear of vehicle fires is widely thought to be a significant factor in the take rate of EVs in the USA today...

There are more EV options than ever before here in the US, in many vehicle classes and price segments. And yet...

Don't get me wrong, I love EVs and own/have owned many. But, I wouldn't be able to recommend the switch to my mother or father as of today.

 

[Josh X]

Just curious if anyone has had their estimate change now that a week has gone by? Will Rivian be updating this estimate as time goes by?

Well they seem to be sending out invites every other Tuesday so maybe updates will happen next Tuesday.

 

[Platinumstorm]

Just curious if anyone has had their estimate change now that a week has gone by? Will Rivian be updating this estimate as time goes by?

I haven't seen anything change. I'm not really sure that I expect it to. If it does, I would think it would next Tuesday.

 

[Zathras]

I don't think the fear of vehicle fires is widely thought to be a significant factor in the take rate of EVs in the USA today...

There are more EV options than ever before here in the US, in many vehicle classes and price segments. And yet...

Don't get me wrong, I love EVs and own/have owned many. But, I wouldn't be able to recommend the switch to my mother or father as of today.

I would be interested in why no recommendation to parents?

I would think the convenience of never having to go to the gas station would be a major appeal to the older folks (I’m 71 so watch it!).

 

[LevelHeaded]

I would be interested in why no recommendation to parents?

I would think the convenience of never having to go to the gas station would be a major appeal to the older folks (I’m 71 so watch it!).

It's not an age thing, it's variety of problems:

For my mother, her parking is on her property but entirely uncovered and about 50 feet from her house, more from the electrical panel. There is no way she would see building a parking structure and/or having electrical laid underground to her parking area as worth the squeeze, especially given that her annual mileage is so low the relative savings of an EV over and ICEV are basically meaningless. I also haven't looked deeply at consumer-level fully waterproof outdoor charging systems to know if they really exist or are reasonably priced. We are in the Seattle area, so it rains a large portion of the year. She'd probably have moss growing in her charge port given it would be sitting there for incredibly long periods of time open if she were to leave the vehicle plugged in while at home. If she has to micromanage it and go plug it in and unplug it as it completes charging to prevent water intrusion/moss growth in the charging port, that's yet another inconvenience vs. an ICEV/hybrid.

On top of that, there's no way she'd be willing to invest the time necessary to learn a new app for the car, PLUS the various other apps one must master to own an EV. Plugshare, ElectrifyAmerica, Ionna, ABRP, and on and on and on. Let alone negotiating NACS vs CCS vs J1772, adapters, etc. The necessity of basically taking a college course to learn how to use an EV when she has decades of knowing how to use any other car with no new effort just isn't worth it to her. Especially because, again, the quantifiable benefits are minimal.

My father has the strong opinion that EVs went down the wrong path by going cell-to-pack or cell-to-body with batteries. He thinks that they should be swappable, and certainly that they should be serviceable/repairable at a modular level. In any case, he isn't willing to consider EVs until recharging is at least as quick as refilling. He's an electrical engineer, so it's not that he inherently. misunderstands electrification or technology. He also drives so little that the relative savings of EVs over ICEV is moot.

In both cases, they aren't exactly wrong. I don't have a good sales pitch that can convince either of them that changing their minds would be worth it. Probably because it wouldn't be. Not yet.

 

[tivoboy]

I haven't seen anything change. I'm not really sure that I expect it to. If it does, I would think it would next Tuesday.

I have an Aug-Sept order window, but I imagine that by late to end of July, it MIGHT shift to “:4-6 weeks” or “6-8 weeks”.. similar to what some current owners, early reservation holders have now.

We’ll see.

 

[AirplaneDr]

Until people realize that for every 100,000 cars, 2300 hybrids burn, vs about 1,500 ICE cars burn, vs 25 EVs burn. When that becomes a known fact, attitudes will change.

So around 4% of cars catch fire? That sees a bit high by a few orders of magnitude. Source?

 

[LevelHeaded]

So around 4% of cars catch fire? That sees a bit high by a few orders of magnitude. Source?

The figures trace back to a 2022 AutoInsuranceEZ study that combined US fire-incident data from the National Transportation Safety Board with sales data from the Bureau of Transportation Statistics.

The catch is the "per 100,000 sold" denominator, and it's a big one. Fires overwhelmingly happen in old, higher-mileage cars — one analysis found 88% of highway vehicle fires involved models from 2007 or earlier, meaning vehicle age and maintenance drive most fires. EVs are a young fleet, so almost none are old enough to have hit their high-fire years yet. Comparing a brand-new EV fleet's fires against a denominator of recent sales, while the ICE fire count includes decades-old beaters, tilts the comparison heavily. It's not an apples-to-apples measure of inherent risk.

Essentially, the numbers don't normalize for vehicle age etc. The denominator could be 100k cars sold in 2025, and 4000 fires in vehicles sold 20 years ago are in the numerator.

 

[Alan in Tempe]

So around 4% of cars catch fire? That sees a bit high by a few orders of magnitude. Source?

I think the original claim might be clearer worded as: for every 100,000 hybrids, 2300 of them burn, for every 100,000 ICEs, 1500 burn, and for every 100,000 EVs, 25 burn. That means (2300+1500+25)/300,000 is the rate of car burning, or about 1.3%. That is a bit more plausible.

 

[Zathras]

So around 4% of cars catch fire? That sees a bit high by a few orders of magnitude. Source?

NTSB numbers. That includes all fires, accident or equipment failure.

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