Yet another wind noise thread, what has worked so far for me

[DuoRivian]

I've continued to go down the black hole of noise reduction. I've made more progress. I am also including a photo of when I was coming back and had a headwind that was at least 20 mph, frequently gusting to about 35-40 mph. After that, there is a video showing my Apple Watch indicating the sound level when there was a quartering tailwind/crosswind.

The immediate photos show the soundproofing I did. Earlier in this thread I showed where I was going to put some but I kept sizing up to where I am now. All this includes putting seals along the windshield and filling in almost every crack I could on the roof. They don't show the tubing I put inside the window seal to put more pressure on it.

1 - I think this was about 10mm and in the outer door seal.
2 - I think I settled on 6mm on the inner door seal and fan it parallel to the outer one, all the way from the mirror to the end. I kept them both a bit long in case they shrink in the heat.
3 - This was 10mm again looping around the ENTIRE door seal, tucked behind the original door seal.
4 - This was an 'L' shaped seal put on the inside of the original factory seal on the door frame.
5 - I don't know what size I ended up with here but this was put along the door frame and is heavy duty rubber. I ran it all the from from the edge of the door frame by the mirror, up across the top and all the way to the top of the rear door.

Compared to the runs I made yesterday, I've seen a 3db noise reduction on my apple watch. This is pretty substantial. Even at 70 mph, my cockpit is quieter. Road noise is now more evident as it isn't being drowned out by the wind. I ran over different pavement and the level jumped up 2 db while at the same speed.

FYI - I did have the AC running as well and the radio was off. I do have to say the door is more challenging to close but I think things will settle in after a bit. While the driver door is better, I will probably do the front passenger door too.

I ran up to 90 mph with the strong head winds, so that was airspeeds of 110-120+. It was definitely quieter than before. The wind buffeting is clearly subdued compared to before but I need to drive it more long-term to see how it is for me. I also need to glue some of the trim down as it was a press fit before and the high speed caused some of it come out and I hadn't glued it as I hadn't settled on the best size yet.

I still think it is total BS I need to do something like this. From what I've read, I think I've gone way beyond what anyone else has done and chased some new areas as well. The buffeting is still there, but it may be livable (I hope). Now the road noise is clearly evident. I think it needs felt in the wheel wells but I don't think I am going down that rabbit hole... yet.

This photo was going 70 mph according to GPS but in a headwind that was 20 mph gusting to at least 35 mph.

This video was taken with a 10+ mph crosswind and tailwind (about a 45 degree angle off the right rear quarter).

Thanks for the continued updates. I have added material in all five locations suggested and it has reduced my noise a little but it still becomes audible above 45 mph and at highway (70mph) I am at 75-78db.

I was wondering about the black plastic covers on the A pillars. Mine are not in the exact same position on both sides - with one leaving a gap before the top of the pillar. I wonder if this is contributing to buffeting. Have you done anything with the A pillar?

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[DayTripping]

Here is a comparison with my Plaid. It was relatively noisy pavement. Using my apple watch the same way, I as doing almost 100 and it was substantially quieter than my truck at 75 mph. This was going into a crosswind of about 15 mph going right over the driver's A pillar. If I had this kind of wind with my R1, it would be louder with more buffeting.

Nice work!

One thing I wanted to let you know that - it may or may not happen - but the 5mm location tends to come off or become loose after ~6 months. I replaced mine with the adhesive backing one. Currently my R1S is in the service center, will post a pic once it is back.

Thanks! I've been going back and using weather strip sealant in the areas I am pretty happy with. After seeing how my Plaid was, it was pretty depressing. I ran it up the mid 100's and looked at my watch and it was quieter than my R1T is at 75-80 mph. I couldn't snap a pic but I was going over double the speed and it was quieter. Not exactly the quietest pavement either.

 

[iansriv]

I got 71db at 80mph on my EOM 20s. Given your 59dB reading, I think there's plenty of room for improvement on my R1S.

 

[DuoRivian]

I got 71db at 80mph on my EOM 20s. Given your 59dB reading, I think there's plenty of room for improvement on my R1S.

71db is pretty good from my experience - I hope the R2 has a smooth A pillar the flows into the main body over the doors as buffeting hit there on the R1

 

[TomServo2112]

I tested today and got an average of 67.1db over about 1 mile. I was trying to keep it above 80mph, peaking at 84mph. I have done mostly driver door mods, but then would mirror them on the passenger door as well. Not quite as extensive as has been discussed here, but have definitely drawn inspiration. I actually may remove one piece of stripping because I feel like I'm hearing more wind than I ever did at lower speeds.

 

[DayTripping]

Thanks for sharing! What app are you using and where did you measure? It is great to have data point but also helpful if we all use similar tools and a consistent methodology/approach.

My noise reading are much more sensitive to road noise than before now that it is quieter overall. I guess that is a good/bad thing.

 

[TomServo2112]

Thanks for sharing! What app are you using and where did you measure? It is great to have data point but also helpful if we all use similar tools and a consistent methodology/approach.

My noise reading are much more sensitive to road noise than before now that it is quieter overall. I guess that is a good/bad thing.

Oh right, I meant to describe that in my post.

I don't have an Apple Watch so identically matching test variables will not happen for me. I do have the magnetic phone mount between the driver screen and the center screen, so I'll consistently measure my own noise from the same spot every time with no chance of microphone jostling. the result is the phone's microphone being not too far off from where someone's right hand might be on the steering wheel. It's an iphone app called decibel, and once I press go it just takes instant + average over time, using "A" weighting.

 

[DayTripping]

Thanks. Do you have the link for the Decibel app? Seems like a lot named decibel when I checked. I'll make some runs in my truck for comparison.

 

[TomServo2112]

Thanks. Do you have the link for the Decibel app? Seems like a lot named decibel when I checked. I'll make some runs in my truck for comparison.

But it's such a unique word!!

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/decibel-x-db-sound-level-meter/id448155923

 

[iansriv]

71db is pretty good from my experience - I hope the R2 has a smooth A pillar the flows into the main body over the doors as buffeting hit there on the R1

Drove a 2025 R1S Dual on 22s today (loaner) and the reading on the same road at about the same speed was about the same (71dB). So, I guess 71dB is the norm (without any fixes).

 

[DayTripping]

Drove a 2025 R1S Dual on 22s today (loaner) and the reading on the same road at about the same speed was about the same (71dB). So, I guess 71dB is the norm (without any fixes).

How did you measure and with what app?

 

[iansriv]

How did you measure and with what app?

I'm no expert by any stretch of the imagination. Placed the phone on the centre cradle and used "Nosh SML."

 

[DayTripping]

Great app and I have it too. I'll plan to do more testing tomorrow.

By centre cradle, I assume you mean the one by the armrest between the seats.

 

[Donald Stanfield]

Am I the only one who has their radio turned up so loud that you wouldn’t hear an aircraft landing behind you?

 

[mkhuffman]

Crap, @Donald Stanfield beat me to it.

As I was reading this thread, I kept thinking the better solution is this:

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