Rival: EX60 Configurator opening this month

[Great Gatsby]

configured this P12 on the UK website. June 2027? The P10 does say available in October of this year. Also that comes out to about $95K (includes VAT) in US dollars. I configured a P10 on the Canada website and it came out to $58K in USD

Apparently this and the iX3 have received a ton of orders and are expected to be in short supply through the end of 2026 (speaking for the European market). The P12 and the Cross Country trim have had a long wait time associated with their delivery, so I'm not surprised. Summer 2027 sounds about right for anyone waiting for the P12 and potentially 2028 for the Cross Country trim here in the states.

I'm not waiting that long lol if I were patient, I would, but I can enjoy my R2 and then just trade up later assuming the EX60 ends up being all it is hyped up to be. Between the P10 and the LE R2, I'd prefer the R2 for its performance and slightly longer range with the 21s. If I'm also being honest, the R2 also just look better IMO

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[TexasBob]

Apparently this and the iX3 have received a ton of orders and are expected to be in short supply through the end of 2026 (speaking for the European market). The P12 and the Cross Country trim have had a long wait time associated with their delivery, so I'm not surprised. Summer 2027 sounds about right for anyone waiting for the P12 and potentially 2028 for the Cross Country trim here in the states.

I'm not waiting that long lol if I were patient, I would, but I can enjoy my R2 and then just trade up later assuming the EX60 ends up being all it is hyped up to be. Between the P10 and the LE R2, I'd prefer the R2 for its performance and slightly longer range with the 21s. If I'm also being honest, the R2 also just look better IMO

To my way of thinking there is not much difference in any of these vehicles in terms of availability. There are ~20k R2s but without the upgraded technology (I would not buy without the lidar/RAP1), otherwise it is 2027. There are ~20k iX3s in the US. There will be a similar number of EX60s but they will only be the mid-range P10 model only this year (not what I would buy). So everything looks to be a 2027 vehicle to get a configuration that interests me. All good. Patience...

 

[Great Gatsby]

To my way of thinking there is not much difference in any of these vehicles in terms of availability. There are ~20k R2s but without the upgraded technology (I would not buy without the lidar/RAP1), otherwise it is 2027. There are ~20k iX3s in the US. There will be a similar number of EX60s but they will only be the mid-range P10 model only this year (not what I would buy). So everything looks to be a 2027 vehicle to get a configuration that interests me. All good. Patience...

Agreed, but also, I'm in patient. I'm leaning launch edition R2 if it comes within the next months for me otherwise I have a few other backups (currently driving, or avoid driving I should say, an ICE vehicle due to gas prices). But given the options we have currently, I'm pretty certain I will likely be trading it in within a year or two as more options and better tech + range + performance vehicles enter the market. Out of these three though, I'd also wager the R2 will hold its value the best.

Rumors already of a higher performing iX3 M60 coming next year which would be more up my alley for performance anyway along with the P12 and hopefully R2X. Also very interested in Scout. I just want to fast forward to 2028 lol so I view these options now as a vehicle to hold me over until the better options of these platforms come along.

 

[richguess]

I’m waiting, will do the configurator, but also will have my eye on a lightly used Audi Q6. A bit less range, but will be $10-$15k less. I’ll need to drive them all.

 

[Nadus]

For me to even consider these legacy companies means they have to commit to the US market.

I was interested in the EX30 as a second car but Volvo pulled it from the US market.

The legacy company I see truly committed is Hyundai/Kia

BMW is starting to interest me though. Perhaps?

I do plan on keeping my R1T so its just a matter of deciding on whether to also have an R2 or switch to something else.

Pulling the EX30 from the US was about tariffs, not really a reflection of Volvo's commitment. They're still selling EX30s around the world.

The EX60 is compelling to me. I like Volvo styling and technology, but for people interested in hauling things and people around in their mid-sized SUV, those storage figures tip the scales in favor of the R2. But I wouldn't fault anyone who goes with an EX60 for the range and charging speed.

 

[TexasBob]

For me, EX60 P12 is my top candidate of all the vehicles coming out except for one thing that may be a deal killer: the autonomy system. My next vehicle needs to be L3 capable at a minimum. I am not signing up for a 5+ year vehicle that cannot drive itself eyes off at least on freeways. Volvo was on a solid path with Thor and LiDAR but then Luminar failed to deliver and went bankrupt and over the past few months they have pulled back. I am hoping it is back on track for the 2028 model year. If so, then EX60 is 99% probability buy. If not I am still holding out.

 

[GreggVA]

I looked hard at the EX30 but for all terrain capability I just don't see it in the same class as the R2 and especially with what you get in the Launch trim. The cargo storage is also significantly less in the EX. I am glad to see others making entry level vehicles and keep the competition going!

 

[Sportstick]

If battery safety performance is important to you, only the P12 is sourced from CATL. The P6 and P10 reportedly come from Sunwoda. I have not been able to find from Sunwoda anything comparable that has been stated that compares to CATL's NP 3.0 standard. I don't need the P12 range or performance, but if I had stayed with Volvo vs. my recent iX3 order, it only would have been for the P12 for that reason and even the Europeans are now being quoted more than a year wait. That was too long for me. BMW is using CATL in iX3 and mine should arrive around November.

 

[Engi_Nerd]

IX3 and EX60 will both be $70K by the time you add a handful of desirable options. These products are likely over-delivering on range and charging because they are still far (far) behind on software, connectivity, OTA-capabilities, and autonomy.

I expect part of the reason Tesla and Rivian are committed to selling you the hardware for "cheap" is that they continue to generate value via subscription revenue and training data.

 

[Sportstick]

IX3 and EX60 will both be $70K by the time you add a handful of desirable options. These products are likely over-delivering on range and charging because they are still far (far) behind on software, connectivity, OTA-capabilities, and autonomy.

I expect part of the reason Tesla and Rivian are committed to selling you the hardware for "cheap" is that they continue to generate value via subscription revenue and training data.

Good estimate! My iX3 MSport Pro as ordered with several packages is $69,550! I'm not sure I see the relationship between range/charging (which are irrelevant to me for my usage) and tech, which I also don't think much about. An EV I can use around town with ~400 miles, even ~300, that I charge once every week or so at some time overnight in my garage, that feels great to drive on local streets/highways, is high-quality, and can be serviced when needed by my great local dealer is my goal. I carefully avoid all autonomous features where possible and if an update happens or not somewhere in the background that I don't have to know or care about, all the better. Other than allowing my iPhone to work via the car speakers, I have no other needs to connect anything. Music is from Sirius XM via satellite so I don't need to buy a data subscription for any apps. The only thing I think the iX3 is already far behind about is the return from screens to physical controls.

 

[MaskedRacerX]

The Volvo is about as Chinese as we'll see an EV in the US for a long while. I had a deposit on an EX30 and while the vehicle almost had me, the pricing was 50K+ on launch with zero under that. I got my deposit back as it just wasn't that nice, more weird than anything

I also had a deposit on an EX30 but after I sat in the rear seat (behind myself) I felt that it was just too small. Anyone know the relative screen sizes between the EX60 and R2? I can't seem to find the dimensions of the R2 screens anywhere.

Ha! I had a deposit on one too. Was thinking it would've made a good "secondary" vehicle with the X5 50e, saw it at the '24 Electrify Expo*, along with a 50e that was my perfect config and I was ready to pull that trigger, then saw the iX ...

Anyway, yeah, it was cute, it's quick in dual motor mode, it's a bit compromised but I think OK for the target market segment.

The cancel / refund was so weird, I called the local dealer that I had selected during the reservation process, and they had no idea what was going on, finally some finance manager (after two other people) got on the phone, I heard lot of typing, he swore it got done (it did )

* Fun trip flew MCO and hit the Expo after a few days in NYC, and after the Expo USF for a couple of days!

 

[MaskedRacerX]

IX3 and EX60 will both be $70K by the time you add a handful of desirable options. These products are likely over-delivering on range and charging because they are still far (far) behind on software, connectivity, OTA-capabilities, and autonomy.

Really? They're providing killer range and charge speeds because everthing else is lacking, only a Tesla owner would say ... oh, I see

 

[MaskedRacerX]

The only thing I think the iX3 is already far behind about is the return from screens to physical controls.

Yeah, I haven't really done a careful critical assessment of the iX3/current-iX/R2 physical vs. screen based controls.

I know our iX is pretty good split: AC vents, all audio, drive control, drive modes, seats (except extended functions like heat/cool/massage), steering wheel (tilt/tele), side mirrors - all physical.

I LOVE the physical controls on the Scout, but sadly, that's not an option in the shorter-ish term, umm, if ever I'm beginning to think.

 

[UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan]

I also had a deposit on an EX30 but after I sat in the rear seat (behind myself) I felt that it was just too small. Anyone know the relative screen sizes between the EX60 and R2? I can't seem to find the dimensions of the R2 screens anywhere.

Scroll to "how big is it" https://stories.rivian.com/r2-sizing-it-up-mid-size-suv

Also Google "Rivian R2 dimensions"

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