Which R2 wheel size is everyone getting?

[DuoRivian]

Frist R1T deliveries were in 22. R1S was late 23-24

Full customer r1T deliveries were very late 2021 and R1S was August 2022. RJ said it was a learning not to launch three vehicles (EDV included) within a year of each other.

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[VSG]

Frist R1T deliveries were in 22. R1S was late 23-24

No.

If you want to get technical, first R1T were September 2021 and first R1S were December 2021 (only 3 months...), but in my book those don't count because they were to internal customers (employees).

There was a trickle of deliveries to real customers after those dates, but the more significant dates were when they started bulk production and deliveries.
Those dates are:

R1T - March 2022​

R1S - September 2022​

That's six months. Not coincidentally, a six month gap had always been the plan since they first announced the production schedule in fall of 2020. And even though initial production got delayed (remember COVID and the huge supply chain disruptions?), that six month gap between R1T and R1S remained constant.

The March and September dates are "soft" in the sense that "bulk production and deliveries" are subjective criteria. But I don't think there's much room for argument about these dates. You can search this forum for the threads where people announced they got their Rivians, and I think if you do that you'll agree with my assessment.

 

[Eric9610]

No.

If you want to get technical, first R1T were September 2021 and first R1S were December 2021, but in my book those don't count because they were to internal customers (employees).

There was a trickle of deliveries to real customers after those dates, but the more significant dates were when they started bulk production and deliveries.
Those dates are:

R1T - March 2022​

R1S - September 2022​

That's six months. Not coincidentally, a six month gap had always been the plan since they first announced the production schedule in fall of 2020. And even though initial production got delayed (remember COVID and the huge supply chain disruptions?), that six month gap between R1T and R1S remained constant.

It still does not matter since it took over 3 years for alternate tire options on the 21's to exist. That was my point.

I got my R1T in Dec of 23 and no option was out at that time. I got My R1S in May of 24 and still no tire option, this is why I went with 22's on the S. I am just saying don't expect more than the OE tire for min 2 years. Until Rivian can show more than 26k cars a year on the 21's most companies won't develop an alternative.

Also, people are living in a fantasy land thinking 100k performance models a year will get sold. The majority of cars 80%+ will be premium or lower tier optioned with 20's. Expect a long long road to alternate tires.

 

[VSG]

It still does not matter since it took over 3 years for alternate tire options on the 21's to exist. That was my point.

The Michelin 21" tires became available in August 2024, so yeah 2.5 years or so after R1T bulk deliveries started. But I have no idea what that has to do with R1T vs R1S release dates, which it what your post that I quoted was about.

The 21" tires have been shipping since day 1, but for YEARS before that we had this same discussion in this forum - there were no alternative tire available for the Rivian 21" wheel size, so IIRC most people in this forum were planning to avoid the 21". Because a lot of people didn't believe that low-volume production from a new car company (which might not have become successful) would be enough to incentivize tire companies to create a competing product.

That situation has changed drastically in the past 6 years. Rivian is not going away, and R2 production is going to exceed most mainstream car models, so there is no longer a question of will there be a market for tire alternatives.

I personally got the 20" wheels on my 2022 R1T, and I''m glad I did because of my use cases. My tires have 4 years and 40k miles on them and still 7/32nds left, so I expect to get maybe 60k miles out of them. I'm not even close to replacing them, so this whole replacement tire discussion is still pretty irrelevant to me (and to most people I suspect).

But for my R2 I'm getting the 21", because I will be using it for different purposes (I'm keeping the R1T ...) and I will appreciate the extra miles even though I don't think extra range is strictly necessary for anything. The 21" are suitable for light off-roading, as demonstrated by many people with R1T/R1S. Because ground clearance is the biggest enabler for off-road travel, not sidewall or wheel diameter. When the time comes in 5-6 years to replace my 21" tires, I'm sure by that time there will be at least one alternative, even if alternative don't exist today. That is, IF I should decided to go with something other than the OEM tires for some reason.

 

[DuoRivian]

It still does not matter since it took over 3 years for alternate tire options on the 21's to exist. That was my point.

I got my R1T in Dec of 23 and no option was out at that time. I got My R1S in May of 24 and still no tire option, this is why I went with 22's on the S. I am just saying don't expect more than the OE tire for min 2 years. Until Rivian can show more than 26k cars a year on the 21's most companies won't develop an alternative.

Also, people are living in a fantasy land thinking 100k performance models a year will get sold. The majority of cars 80%+ will be premium or lower tier optioned with 20's. Expect a long long road to alternate tires.

Instead of being reasonable and admitting you were wrong on release dates you dismiss it and move to a different topic. Just admit you had some info wrong and then go from there.

 

[Eric9610]

Instead of being reasonable and admitting you were wrong on release dates you dismiss it and move to a different topic. Just admit you had some info wrong and then go from there.

lol ill admit I was off by 6 months. Much closer than an available alternative 21 tire will be. Something you can't admit...

Anyone getting the 21 should be prepared for at min 2 year wait for an alternative. Also, strange how everyone disregards that all review cars had 20's. The ride with 21's is going to be so poor. Can't wait to see the review differences. Not only were all the review cars on 20's every prototype had 20's while they were in development.

 

[r2fb]

21 of course. Better range and on road performance and cheaper. Unless you're going off road which few people will do, you're better off with 21. Replacements will be available by the time you need new tires and even if not i'm sure you can swap with someone on 20's straight up once the lower configs with 20" street tires are available. Do not punish yourself with garbage all terrain tires just to get 20"

 

[elektrode]

Replacements will be available by the time you need new tires.

Replacements will be available by the time you need [your second set of] new tires. That’s my guess. (Former R1T 21er here)

I have grown used to the Premium 20s “hotwheels” ones we’ve seen for years. Bummer they aren’t even an option as they are “free” on Premium and $2k less than the 21s on Launch. I’d much rather have the hotwheels 20s and $2k for color budget. But alas, I’ve be “configurated” out of that choice.

 

[DuoRivian]

lol ill admit I was off by 6 months. Much closer than an available alternative 21 tire will be. Something you can't admit...

Anyone getting the 21 should be prepared for at min 2 year wait for an alternative. Also, strange how everyone disregards that all review cars had 20's. The ride with 21's is going to be so poor. Can't wait to see the review differences. Not only were all the review cars on 20's every prototype had 20's while they were in development.

I am getting 20s so I don’t get your aggressive ending in the first paragraph. Especially when you start out ok on admitting your initial error. Should have left it at that.

 

[morph860]

Speedo, odomiter and range will all be off.

Would we be able to update the tire size in the settings menu? Or do they only let us choose between the OEM tire sizes?

 

[Eric9610]

Would we be able to update the tire size in the settings menu? Or do they only let us choose between the OEM tire sizes?

Currently on the R1 you can only update tire size based on OEM offerings.

 

[maba2366]

It still does not matter since it took over 3 years for alternate tire options on the 21's to exist. That was my point.

I got my R1T in Dec of 23 and no option was out at that time. I got My R1S in May of 24 and still no tire option, this is why I went with 22's on the S. I am just saying don't expect more than the OE tire for min 2 years. Until Rivian can show more than 26k cars a year on the 21's most companies won't develop an alternative.

Also, people are living in a fantasy land thinking 100k performance models a year will get sold. The majority of cars 80%+ will be premium or lower tier optioned with 20's. Expect a long long road to alternate tires.

Yes because that is when the replacement cycle starts...making the tires in an oddball size available right when the car is released makes no sense.

 

[BenderSC]

I'm going with the 21 inch because of the following:
1. They are already included. Don't have to spend more money.
2. I heard, the Pirelli is the only option, but I'm assuming a lot more R2s will be sold than R1s and by the time I need new tires (probably after a few years considering I'm driving about 10K/year), more brands/types will be available.
3. Getting about 30 to 35 more miles on each charge.

So, this is a no-brainer for me

 

[Utah-Jay]

I'm going with the 21 inch because of the following:
1. They are already included. Don't have to spend more money.
2. I heard, the Pirelli is the only option, but I'm assuming a lot more R2s will be sold than R1s and by the time I need new tires (probably after a few years considering I'm driving about 10K/year), more brands/types will be available.
3. Getting about 30 to 35 more miles on each charge.

So, this is a no-brainer for me

A “few” to me is more than 2 years, maybe 4. IF you get 30,000 miles out of those Pirelli tires I will be shocked.

Fingers crossed for ya

 

[Eric9610]

I'm going with the 21 inch because of the following:
1. They are already included. Don't have to spend more money.
2. I heard, the Pirelli is the only option, but I'm assuming a lot more R2s will be sold than R1s and by the time I need new tires (probably after a few years considering I'm driving about 10K/year), more brands/types will be available.
3. Getting about 30 to 35 more miles on each charge.

So, this is a no-brainer for me

I agree, a lot of R2 will be sold, more than the R1, but models with 21's will be = or less than the current R1 sales were. The dominant models that will sell in volume on the R2 all come standard with 19's or 20's. Only the performance and maybe the Tri will come with 21's. The P models will sell about 20k per year and based on comments on here it looks like 50/50 on size.

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