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No one has done more than him in that regard.
For profit......to be clear. He did it to make money, not to be a good person, or do the right thing, but to futher his fortunes. Sure he might be a curious person by nature, but he didn't do it for free.

Rober is giving away $60mil in resources to teachers to further education.

There's a pretty stark difference here, and the scales are not even CLOSE to being in Musks favor.
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For profit......to be clear. He did it to make money, not to be a good person, or do the right thing, but to futher his fortunes. Sure he might be a curious person by nature, but he didn't do it for free.

Rober is giving away $60mil in resources to teachers to further education.

There's a pretty stark difference here, and the scales are not even CLOSE to being in Musks favor.
You think Elon Musk in the early days was doing it for profit? Tesla almost went bankrupt numerous times in it's history. They almost bounced payroll multiple times. Go back and watch his early videos. He has been for saving the planet since before it was cool and trendy. He is the ONLY reason EV's exist today in any shape or form.

How much money do you think Mark Rober makes with his 80 million YouTube subscribers? He's not doing it for free. He's giving away money bc he has made so much money. No different than any other millionaire or billionaire.
 

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You think Elon Musk in the early days was doing it for profit? Tesla almost went bankrupt numerous times in it's history. They almost bounced payroll multiple times. Go back and watch his early videos. He has been for saving the planet since before it was cool and trendy. He is the ONLY reason EV's exist today in any shape or form.

How much money do you think Mark Rober makes with his 80 million YouTube subscribers? He's not doing it for free. He's giving away money bc he has made so much money. No different than any other millionaire or billionaire.
Agree to disagree, we're getting nowhere.

I think Elon's a giant tool, not the EV messiah. You think Robers a lying weasel, not an interesting character.

I'm out.
 

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Agree to disagree, we're getting nowhere.

I think Elon's a giant tool, not the EV messiah. You think Robers a lying weasel, not an interesting character.

I'm out.
Ironically, that is my whole point.

Elon can be a giant tool and the EV messiah at the same time. Mark Rober can be a lying weasel and an interesting character at the same time.

Two things can be true at once.
 

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Any video that portrays Elon Musk's hand gesture as Nazi salute, is not one I'm interested in watching. It's already click bait and purposedly misleading on it's surface.

The Democrats ostracized him long before he went to the right - a man that voted for Obama twice and Clinton.
I honestly cannot understand anyone who sees a duck and doesn't think it's a duck. Especially when he hangs out with other ducks and promotes the duck party.
 

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From Rivian:
@markrober is teasing some... unconventional modifications to his new R2. 🤫 We aren't entirely sure what he's up to, but we can't wait to see the reveal this weekend.

Join us for the final R2 Block Party in San Francisco! 👉 http://rivn.co/3RfsdGc



Looks like some big modification on top of that R2... any guesses what it is??

Those squirrels are finally going to get what's coming to them.....
 

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With all of those pixels I thought it might be a giant inflatable squirrel penis that shoots glitter at porch pirates. 🍆 ✨ 🏴‍☠️

Maybe Rober is trying to troll all of the pickups that are still driving around with truck nuts? 🥜
 
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Not really. He used Autopilot, not FSD. Autopilot is basically lane centering for the highway. It's not even applicable to the scenario he's using it for. If that wasn't bad enough, he also disengaged Autopilot before hitting the wall, which can seen on the car screen at the 15:42 mark.

He's purposedly relying on viewer ignorance of not understanding the difference to pump some LIDAR company. Tesla has never said Autopilot could do the things he's testing!

Watch for yourself - around 8 min mark is the actual start:
Wow this is all pretty confusing. But I think I've got it. Bear with me while I paraphrase:

1) Elon Musk and Tesla set up fake viral videos to show they had a functioning robo-taxi and have lied repeatedly about it.
2) Some youtube guy I had never heard of until today named Mark Rober (what can I say I don't get out much) also set up a fake viral video to show that Teslas running on autopilot, which is a totally different and unrelated thing that just happens to use the same hardware and software but never mind, would collide without LiDAR?

So... the youtube faker faked the video of the collision to criticize the CEO faker who also faked a video but the faked youtube video was about autopilot and the faked tesla video was about fsd which has nothing to do with the other. And it is especially outrageous that the faked youtube video was pretend-using autopilot which is not even meant for this purpose and he should have been pretend-using FSD as everyone knows, but he wasn't. Meanwhile both fakers were not-so-secretly pumping the stock of different companies trying to convince retail rubes to invest to make themselves rich, which they did. None of which should be confused with the more recent fake videos of the robotaxi were more staged videos than completely fake videos so, again, different.

Whew.
 

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Wow this is all pretty confusing. But I think I've got it. Bear with me while I paraphrase:

1) Elon Musk and Tesla set up fake viral videos to show they had a functioning robo-taxi and have lied repeatedly about it.
2) Some youtube guy I had never heard of until today named Mark Rober (what can I say I don't get out much) also set up a fake viral video to show that Teslas running on autopilot, which is a totally different and unrelated thing that just happens to use the same hardware and software but never mind, would collide without LiDAR?

So... the youtube faker faked the video of the collision to criticize the CEO faker who also faked a video but the faked youtube video was about autopilot and the faked tesla video was about fsd which has nothing to do with the other. And it is especially outrageous that the faked youtube video was pretend-using autopilot which is not even meant for this purpose and he should have been pretend-using FSD as everyone knows, but he wasn't. Meanwhile both fakers were not-so-secretly pumping the stock of different companies trying to convince retail rubes to invest to make themselves rich, which they did. None of which should be confused with the more recent fake videos of the robotaxi were more staged videos than completely fake videos so, again, different.

Whew.
I'm pretty sure that timeline is wrong, and if so, then the whole post is wrong. I admire your humor, however. I *think* the lying Robotaxi videos came after the lying Rober fakery, but I'm not sure, and suddenly I find myself totally out of fucks to google it.

Also, we've all known that Musk is a lying weasel, always has been. I can't imagine that's even a question for anyone.
 

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Jesus. Yet another thread, having nothing to do with Elmo, gone to shit because of the Musklickers. Is he monitoring this site with his AI bot and scoring points to see who is his favorite humanoid robot?
 

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... Is there like a "block" feature that would let me not have to read any more posts about Tesla and Elon?

Regarding the LiDAR video, the argument is that FSD wasn't enabled and that's why it crashed through the wall? So the hill y'all are going to die on is that Teslas only have functional collision avoidance when your FSD subscription is paid for and enabled..? Stupid argument. Automatic Emergency Braking should always be active and should always brake for stationary obstacles.
 

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Love when these threads turn into a Facebook-esque boomer fight 🙄
Gen X here.

Jesus. Yet another thread, having nothing to do with Elmo, gone to shit because of the Musklickers. Is he monitoring this site with his AI bot and scoring points to see who is his favorite humanoid robot?
You mean the Musk haters?
 

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I honestly cannot understand anyone who sees a duck and doesn't think it's a duck. Especially when he hangs out with other ducks and promotes the duck party.
Dude if it really was 1930’s Germany they would have already found you and you’d be in a camp or dead for this post alone. It’s hyperbole plain and simple. Ironically they’re doing this in 2026 Germany and UK for mean things said about politicians. Or maybe you’ve not heard?
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