Update on timing now in account

[Zathras]

I think the original claim might be clearer worded as: for every 100,000 hybrids, 2300 of them burn, for every 100,000 ICEs, 1500 burn, and for every 100,000 EVs, 25 burn. That means (2300+1500+25)/300,000 is the rate of car burning, or about 1.3%. That is a bit more plausible.

That's not what I wrote. The combined number is the point. Hybrids burn at a rate 100 times more than EVs, and ICE cars at a rate of 60 times more. How many in total misses the point.

So it's 2,300 hybrids for every 100,000 cars. Not per 100,000 hybrids.

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[Alan in Tempe]

That's not what I wrote. The combined number is the point. Hybrids burn at a rate 100 times more than EVs, and ICE cars at a rate of 60 times more. How many in total misses the point.

So it's 2,300 hybrids for every 100,000 cars. Not per 100,000 hybrids.

Well, it is what you should have written. Blaze Stack <https://www.blazestack.com/blog/how-many-ev-fires-in-2023-2024> has very similar numbers, and it clearly is based on numbers per 100K for each car type (EV, hybrid, ICE). The first paragraph is very clear on this. Here is a snippet from the Blaze Stack link:

EV Fires: Top Statistics
Electric vehicle fire data from 2024–2025 continues to cut through the noise. Globally, battery electric vehicles (BEVs) experience roughly 25 fires per 100,000 vehicles sold, translating to a ~0.025% fire rate. Internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicles sit near 1,530 fires per 100,000, while hybrids spike to ~3,475 per 100,000, making them the highest-risk category.
EVs now represent about one quarter of new global car sales, yet account for a single-digit share of total vehicle fires in mature markets. Where EV fires do occur, they are longer-lasting and more complex to manage, often requiring extended cooling and monitoring to prevent reignition. The takeaway is blunt: EV fires are rarer, not gentler.
Fire Incidents by Vehicle Type (2024–2025)

PROPULSION TYPE	FIRES PER 100K CARS SOLD	FIRE RATE (%)
EV (Battery Electric)	25	~0.025%
ICE (Gas/Diesel)	1,530	~1.53%
Hybrid (PHEV/HEV)	3,475	~3.48%

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The mileage-based comparison provides the clearest picture of relative risk. According to the most recent NHTSA analysis, it takes approximately 7.2 million miles of EV travel to trigger one fire, compared to 18,000 miles for gasoline vehicles — a 400x difference in per-mile fire frequency. For fire investigators, this figure matters more than per-vehicle rates because it accounts for actual usage patterns rather than fleet size alone.
EVs catch fire way less often than traditional cars, and hybrids have the highest relative likelihood of fire. EV fire rates are tiny on a percentage basis, but when they do happen, they’re operationally complex (longer burn times and harder suppression).

 

[Dave Cundiff]

According to the most recent NHTSA analysis, it takes approximately 7.2 million miles of EV travel to trigger one fire, compared to 18,000 miles for gasoline vehicles — a 400x difference in per-mile fire frequency.

I've driven maybe 500-600K lifetime gasoline-vehicle miles, and I haven't had a vehicle fire since 1979. I question the figure of one fire per 18,000 miles for gasoline vehicles. Can someone confirm this?

Thanks, all!

 

[mpw81]

My timeline last week was 4-8 weeks. This morning it is 1-2 weeks.

I'm not sure we need more data points but 2022 R1T VIN of 8XXX, launch day order within 10 mins of opening, I want an LE, have an August expiring lease on a Q4.

 

[Count Orlok]

My timeline last week was 4-8 weeks. This morning it is 1-2 weeks.

I'm not sure we need more data points but 2022 R1T VIN of 8XXX, launch day order within 10 mins of opening, I want an LE, have an August expiring lease on a Q4.

mine is still 4-8 weeks.

 

[tivoboy]

My timeline last week was 4-8 weeks. This morning it is 1-2 weeks.

I'm not sure we need more data points but 2022 R1T VIN of 8XXX, launch day order within 10 mins of opening, I want an LE, have an August expiring lease on a Q4.

Hopefully, thank god this is Rivian. “Two weeks” is the kiss of death for any Tesla expectations.. two weeks means basically never. ;-)

 

[vmi9d3]

My timeline last week was 4-8 weeks. This morning it is 1-2 weeks.

I'm not sure we need more data points but 2022 R1T VIN of 8XXX, launch day order within 10 mins of opening, I want an LE, have an August expiring lease on a Q4.

Do you have a R2 VIN yet? I ordered on 3 July and don't see a timeline in my account. I was guessing 4-8 weeks based on the configurator.

 

[Mos Eisley]

mine is still 4-8 weeks.

They've realized that the recycled and natural materials fabric on the dashboard has a high percentage of garlic and are designing an alternative fore you.

 

[mpw81]

Do you have a R2 VIN yet? I ordered on 3 July and don't see a timeline in my account. I was guessing 4-8 weeks based on the configurator.

Clarifying that my account went from "You will be invited to order in 4-8 weeks" to 1-2 weeks between yesterday and today. So I have not yet been invited to order.

 

[Teledatageek]

Clarifying that my account went from "You will be invited to order in 4-8 weeks" to 1-2 weeks between yesterday and today. So I have not yet been invited to order.

That's awesome! Made me check and no change from my two to four weeks from last Tuesday. I hope it's two weeks (next Tuesday)! Who knows the rhyme or reason to some of this....

 

[dleepnw]

For 3k more for Launch FG/CC interior you get Performance (3k upgrade?), better wheels (2k upgrade) and Autonomy+ for life (2.5k) that is like like free 4.5k in ugrades... IMO this is a no brainer. It will nice to see more of these in NC soon, I am supposed to pick mine up 2nd week of July, also you will need to pick up in SC or VA unless something changes with the NC laws.

This is exactly why Rivian created the LE before LiDAR is available. If they didn't incentivize customers to buy them now, a lot would just wait for the LiDAR version since its not that far away.

Nothing fishy. Rivian has said from the off that there are multiple factors that go into the order date. One big factor you are not taking into account is that they want to sprinkle in new non-owners into the mix.

Except that fact that all three are non-Rivian owners. I don't think its bindly random but there's definitely some oddity to how they are grouping people into delivery windows. Sure its making some people happy but its pissing off early reservations holders and current/previous owners who are (or were) probably their most loyal customers.

 

[godfodder0901]

This is exactly why Rivian created the LE before LiDAR is available. If they didn't incentivize customers to buy them now, a lot would just wait for the LiDAR version since its not that far away.

Except that fact that all three are non-Rivian owners. I don't think its bindly random but there's definitely some oddity to how they are grouping people into delivery windows. Sure its making some people happy but its pissing off early reservations holders and current/previous owners who are (or were) probably their most loyal customers.

Meh. I'm one of the earliest R1 reservations, one of the first R1 deliveries, and a minute 3 R2 reservation holder. It doesn't piss me off.

 

[WoodChips]

I placed my reservation a few days ago and already received an email saying I can place my order Dec-Feb with a 4-8 week delivery time afterwards.

I scheduled a test drive this Saturday, I have a service center in my town.

I'm kind of surprised it's moving that quickly. I wonder how many early reservations have been canceled.

 

[Yamazaki]

I've been annoyed that others that reserved about the same time as I have already ordered their R2, but I won't receive an invite until Aug-Sep....

But I noticed that on my account page it keeps offering a test drive (and if I log out and look at test drive availability, it says the service center is fully booked). The weird thing is that I already did a test drive on June 9th, the first day they offered them. After reading that others have received an updated order invite window after doing the test drive, do you think mine wasn't registered and that's why I'm further back in line than others with similar reservation windows?

I'm not waiting for a configuration that isn't offered at the moment. I'm wanting what is available now and have such a configuration saved in my favorites, and the trade-in offer I received from Rivian expires in a week.

Why would Rivian keep showing me the test drive offer if I've already done so? For those of you who have already done the test drive, do you still have a "Book a Drive" tile in your account page? Thoughts? You think if I did another test drive, it might change my invitation window?

 

[godfodder0901]

You think if I did another test drive, it might change my invitation window?

No.

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