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[SeaGeo]

Oh God no - if they published a “what to do if we go bankrupt”, it would make me way more nervous.

Really?! Our brains work sooo much differently.

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[Zac]

I'll be curious to hear how the paint looks when you all get the trucks. Is it full of swirls? Did they just do a basic cleaning job? Did they buff it out and detail it?

I wonder if the service centers offer any after market paint protection too. I'd probably jump on the opportunity to have them apply some PPF and ceramic at the SC.

I asked about this after doing my test drive 2 weeks ago. They said they don’t have any plans currently to offer PPF, ceramic coating, or wraps.

 

[DaveA]

I asked about this after doing my test drive 2 weeks ago. They said they don’t have any plans currently to offer PPF, ceramic coating, or wraps.

Those options would be a great way to make back some money on the pre-order holders buying at the pre-3/1 prices for sure. A missed opportunity me thinks.

 

[SANZC02]

I’m not sure that any of us buying Rivian vehicles are proceeding with what I’d call caution. I waited until after Ford invested and Amazon bought a stake with a commitment to buy delivery vans. This gave me some level of comfort that the company could survive so I reserved.

Even with that information, I have friends and family members who think we are well past cautious and all the way to, well, bat shit crazy to be buying a vehicle from a startup. Spending $80K on a first model year vehicle from an unproven manufacturer carries risk.

In 5 years people could look at us in our Rivians the way we look at Fisker Karma drivers: looks like a cool car and it’s a shame they’re driving an orphaned vehicle now. If any of us can’t accept the possibility of this even happening then we probably shouldn’t be buying until Rivian has some history.

That’s why Rivian would’ve lost my business if they stuck to the higher pricing. I committed to take a chance on them by buying an $80K SUV. In turn, Rivian can use my sale, data, and experiences as a customer to attract other customers who are less risk tolerant but willing to pay a price more in line with competitive offerings from established manufacturers.

I agree here, if losing this money would seriously impact anyone they absolutely should be waiting to see how the company progresses and how the vehicles hold up.

From what we have seen, the trucks seem well built, company has some decent backers but they are unproven. They are trying to ramp up in clearly one of the toughest times we have seen in a hundred years. Couple that with falling stock that could get into a takeover position if it keeps falling and clearly success is not a forgone conclusion.

I set a certain amount of money aside when I made the reservation for this, if losing that money would impact me I would have backed out more than a year ago.

Full disclosure, I did get the full allotment of shares in the DSP and purchased more since, I think they are going to do well but I am playing with discretionary funds, not money I need to live on.

 

[mkennedy1996]

Really?! Our brains work sooo much differently.

Maybe not. Give your wife a document tonight that outlines what will happen if you file for divorce. Then ask her if she feels more comfortable.

The publishing of the 'what if' raises the 'what if' to 'possibility' for many people.

 

[SeaGeo]

Maybe not. Give your wife a document tonight that outlines what will happen if you file for divorce. Then ask her if she feels more comfortable.

The publishing of the 'what if' raises the 'what if' to 'possibility' for many people.

She'd prefer the knowledge with a truck (I've talked to her about it). As would her parents who think we are nuts.

I will acknowledge that I'm more comfortable with pre-mortem analyses than most though. Managing risk and acknowledging unknowns is a constant for me at work.

A startup acknowledging that they aren't guaranteed to succeed is different than telling you're spouse you aren't all in.

 

[SeaGeo]

She'd prefer the knowledge with a truck (I've talked to her about it). As would her parents who think we are nuts.

I will acknowledge that I'm more comfortable with pre-mortem analyses than most though. Managing risk and acknowledging unknowns is a constant for me at work.

A startup acknowledging that they aren't guaranteed to succeed is different than telling you're spouse you aren't all in.

And amending this further, that uncertainty is the primary issue that would keep us from getting her an R1S. I think most people are fully aware that a startup manufacturer is relatively likely to fail.

 

[SoCal Rob]

Maybe not. Give your wife a document tonight that outlines what will happen if you file for divorce. Then ask her if she feels more comfortable.

The publishing of the 'what if' raises the 'what if' to 'possibility' for many people.

I don’t think that’s a reasonable comparison.

Short of a document like you described (after-the-fact prenuptial agreement?), the law already establishes what will happen if @SeaGeo should end up in divorce court. Both parties are already aware of these laws and have a rough idea of how things would go.

There is nothing like that if the manufacturer of an always-connected vehicle goes out of business. It would be nice to know that the leadership of the company cared enough about their customers to provide a way to keep the vehicles running should the servers they connect to go offline permanently.

Think of it as being like a corporate will with the customers’ vehicles as beneficiaries being cared for and maybe it will make more sense.

 

[ads75]

Oh God no - if they published a “what to do if we go bankrupt”, it would make me way more nervous.

I have to agree. I wouldn't want them publicly thinking about "What if we fail" this early. I would think that would make any employees nervous also. They just went public. They have 70k preorders (that may be built at a loss), that they will be working on for a couple years. They are making plans for a second factory. I want them looking forward, not sideways. I would be extremely nervous if they published a "How your R1T survives if we don't". To me, it would seem like a desperate, last chance move.

But I do admit I'd like to know. Probably too tough to tell realistically. They could go straight out and close, or someone could buy them or parts of them.

 

[Jay]

Yayyy.. I am excited for you @AdamL.. looking forward to see your expressions and emotions while taking keys

 

[kanundrum]

In the middle of detailing my Sisters Ioniq 5, looking at the way they drilled her license plate warped the whole front of the bumped, they practically took a impact wrench to the bracket.

I will 10000% reject a delivery if they drill the front bumper with a license plate. I dont care if I waited 4 years, I have multiple notes in my account not to do so.

 

[kanundrum]

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[crashmtb]

In the middle of detailing my Sisters Ioniq 5, looking at the way they drilled her license plate warped the whole front of the bumped, they practically took a impact wrench to the bracket.

I will 10000% reject a delivery if they drill the front bumper with a license plate. I dont care if I waited 4 years, I have multiple notes in my account not to do so.

Looks like they used the three prescribed screws for the bracket(top two, middle one), then used too-long screws through the spots for attaching the license plate itself.


Hopedully rivian’s people will be better trained than the average dealership goon

 

[r1t_kev]

Jeez. This is the type of thing that makes me thankful Pennsylvanians only need a rear tag.

 

[mkennedy1996]

And amending this further, that uncertainty is the primary issue that would keep us from getting her an R1S. I think most people are fully aware that a startup manufacturer is relatively likely to fail.

I fully agree with you. about the anxiety related to the potential for failure with a startup. I was just trying to make a joke.

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