Who is excited about Cybertruck?

[zipzag]

I'm finally excited to see the thing enter the real world. My original order was R1S max pack. I wanted a two row long range SUV EV. Cybertruck fits that niche that Rivian abandoned. Unfortunently I won't own and drive Cybertruck based on looks.

But I'm still excited and expect it to be a great vehicle. I expect it to be more efficient and possibly more durable that the R1. Anyone else like it who is not a potential buyer?

It's remarkable that the Model 3 and Y have become the new Camry, but Tesla has become boring. The cybertruck design was a great choice. I think tesla cars risks demand stagnating this decade due to lack of design innovation.

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[lefkonj]

I would prefer if Elon admitted the design is horrific and made something that people actually wanted to own. I am sure the Tesla fanboys will be all over it but that is the laziest design I have seen in a long time. Just horrific.

 

[fhteagle]

I have reservations (both in the sense of refundable money and in the sense of concerns) on most of the BEV trucks available to consumers in the next 2 years. Haven't put any money on a Rivian yet, just watching how the company goes through the growing pains first.

They've all got pluses and minuses, so I won't go into a diatribe on each.

There's just not enough details on CT to be excited or disappointed yet. The only thing we know for certain is it won't be visually, specs, or price wise exactly what was shown at the preview 3 years ago. Hopefully they used that time to learn from the competition and deliver a product that is at least as good in all the ways that really matter.

Downsides to CT in my mind are:

- looks, though I have seen some mock-ups of it blacked out and it looks totally different and better that way in my opinion
- I am big on right to repair, parts and tech manual availability to the public, etc, and Tesla doesn't seem to be
- Monolithic structural battery pack and the cost to replace the whole thing after the warranty is over makes me really nervous. I keep my vehicles quite a long time, minimum a decade but I'm hoping for 2 out of my next purchase. Difficult or impossible to repair battery that can be crippled by a single bad cell is what I have on my Volt and not what I want to repeat.

But there are probable upsides to the CT also. I'm not a Tesla / Elon fanboy, nor hater. I just want a good total cost of ownership, durable, transportation tool at the end of the day. But I'm weird like that lol.

 

[COdogman]

I am a long time Musk hater, so take my opinions with a grain of salt. And I am still 50/50 on whether they ever actually make the thing.

I can typically put that aside to compliment good design, but I actually don’t think the CT design makes much sense at all. First of all the thing is enormous. Longer than an F-150. Most Tesla people or even just people not looking for a traditional truck don’t want to drive something that size.

The peaked roof is a strange choice. It creates that gigantic windshield up front and only seems to steal space from the rear seats. And I have yet to see any decent photos from those rear seats. It looks from the outside like there is no headroom at all back there. Plus, WTF is with that afterthought windshield wiper? Where the hell are people going to buy replacements for that thing?

The bed design drives me crazy. I know I am probably not their target demographic but the way the edges of the bed are designed it’s as if they are attempting to scare people away from using it like a real truck. When I imagine using that bed like I use my Tacoma’s, I have visions of me bumping my elbow on the pointy end of the bed and bleeding out somewhere.

We also still don’t know so much about this thing, like weight, efficiency, price, etc….

I do like the choices of materials IF they actually stick with that. If they actually manufacture it I could see them sticking with the body panels but scrapping the glass idea. Although I appreciate the attempt to make a truck out of more durable materials. Also like the design of the tonneau they showed on early concepts.

 

[zipzag]

I have reservations (both in the sense of refundable money and in the sense of concerns) on most of the BEV trucks available to consumers in the next 2 years. Haven't put any money on a Rivian yet, just watching how the company goes through the growing pains first.

They've all got pluses and minuses, so I won't go into a diatribe on each.

There's just not enough details on CT to be excited or disappointed yet. The only thing we know for certain is it won't be visually, specs, or price wise exactly what was shown at the preview 3 years ago. Hopefully they used that time to learn from the competition and deliver a product that is at least as good in all the ways that really matter.

Downsides to CT in my mind are:

- looks, though I have seen some mock-ups of it blacked out and it looks totally different and better that way in my opinion
- I am big on right to repair, parts and tech manual availability to the public, etc, and Tesla doesn't seem to be
- Monolithic structural battery pack and the cost to replace the whole thing after the warranty is over makes me really nervous. I keep my vehicles quite a long time, minimum a decade but I'm hoping for 2 out of my next purchase. Difficult or impossible to repair battery that can be crippled by a single bad cell is what I have on my Volt and not what I want to repeat.

But there are probable upsides to the CT also. I'm not a Tesla / Elon fanboy, nor hater. I just want a good total cost of ownership, durable, transportation tool at the end of the day. But I'm weird like that lol.

A Tacoma would probably give you the lowest cost of ownership

 

[zipzag]

We also still don’t know so much about this thing, like weight, efficiency, price, etc….

We know all the major features except price. Tesla builds everything in a similar way. You could not find a single person in the auto industry who does not think that volume production of the cybertruck is even a valid question. I dislike Musk too, and not owning a Tesla is a benefit of buying a Rivian. My model Y is a great car.

 

[Dark-Fx]

I would prefer if Elon admitted the design is horrific and made something that people actually wanted to own. I am sure the Tesla fanboys will be all over it but that is the laziest design I have seen in a long time. Just horrific.

I'm excited to hear all the reviews that rave about it as a vehicle but that it falls flat as a truck.

 

[COdogman]

We know all the major features except price. Tesla builds everything in a similar way. You could not find a single person in the auto industry who does not think that volume production of the cybertruck is even a valid question. I dislike Musk too, and not owning a Tesla is a benefit of buying a Rivian. My model Y is a great car.

So you know the weight and dimensions and efficiency of the CT? Because it’s not on the Tesla website anywhere. I do consider the size and weight of a vehicle to be major features. It just seems to me if they were about to start producing these there would be a LOT more info available.

 

[manitou202]

Half the things I do with my Rivian I couldn't do with the Cybertruck. No roof rack. No bed racks. It wouldn't fit in my garage (R1T barely fits). It looks like it has poor visibility and would be a pain to drive in town and in traffic. We have yet to see if it has a front trunk. No gear tunnel. I can't stand the lack of a central screen in front of the driver. You get one color.

It also doesn't have any of the benefits of the F150 Lightning. V2G. Massive aftermarket accessories already available. Ford service network (You may laugh at traditional dealerships, but it you live in remote areas they are a massive benefit).

My guess is the price will be on par with Rivian and premium F150 Lightnings. I really don't understand the appeal other than to be different and scream "look at me!"

If I had any interest in another EV truck, it would be the Lightning or the Silverado/GMC.

 

[zipzag]

I'm excited to hear all the reviews that rave about it as a vehicle but that it falls flat as a truck.

Less of a truck that the R1T? The bed of CT is likely significantly bigger.

I think CT overlaps with SUV buyers

The biggest CT question I have is the connection between the bed and the second row

 

[NooterIA]

If this were a poll, I'd vote for "Not Excited/Don't Care" --- I really don't have anything against Musk or Tesla, but the CT is just flat out ugly to me. Ford's EV looks like any other Ford and at least the chevy EV is a bit more distinguishable from other Silverado's. If Musk was going for an EV that looks like nothing else ever on the road, he nailed it.

That said, I LOVE the look of the Riv's. Modern, yet not like something out of Total Recall.

 

[Redline]

I think the CT is a ridiculously dumb vehicle. I also still don't believe they'll make it the way it currently looks. Somehow I still look back at that introduction circus they put on, and think it was just a Musk prank.

 

[Dark-Fx]

Less of a truck that the R1T? The bed of CT is likely significantly bigger.

I think CT overlaps with SUV buyers

The biggest CT question I have is the connection between the bed and the second row

There's a lot more to being a truck than the size of the bed. If Tesla really is giving it a 3500 lbs payload capacity, I can't really imagine how well that's going to drive for non-truck use, since HD trucks with air suspension still aren't great to drive unloaded.

People are complaining about the material the Rivian's bed is made out of, I'm excited to hear how well things stay put on the smooth stainless steel the cybertruck has.

 

[AxelR]

I'm excited to hear all the reviews that rave about it as a vehicle but that it falls flat as a truck.

Pretty much like the T and its tiny bed?

 

[Dark-Fx]

Pretty much like the T and its tiny bed?

Where have I heard that one before?

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