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Rivian R1T R1S Greenville, SC to Panama City Beach, FL PXL_20230211_205209118


Had a work trip that required me to travel to PCB for a few days so I decided to bring the family with me and make a week out of it. It also made for a great first attempt on a true road trip with our 2 year old. The drive is about 7.5 hours under ideal circumstances to go 450 miles, so it's a trip that's effectively a full day of driving with charging stops required. For the drive down we had 3 adults and a 2 year old in a front facing car seat with the associated gear for a week at the beach. For the drive down I was pretty conservative with charging stops because Plugshare made the final stop at Chipley sound like it was unreliable and I didn't know how well I would be able to charge once we got to PCB. We probably could have shaved an hour off the drive down with 1 less top and higher cruising speed. First stop was mostly a bathroom break prior to hitting the Atlanta metro (I told my wife in no uncertain terms that we weren't stopping once we got close to Midtown, so if she needed to use the bathroom it needed to happen now).


Rivian R1T R1S Greenville, SC to Panama City Beach, FL Screenshot_20230213-100719


Second stop was for lunch and to get the backseat ready for nap time. My wife McGuyver'd up a blackout sleep tent situation for the 2 year old to nap in that needed to be "installed."

Rivian R1T R1S Greenville, SC to Panama City Beach, FL Screenshot_20230213-100611


Final stop was at the aforementioned Chipley EA Station, which ended up being pretty decent all things considered. This stop was unnecessary because we had sufficient SoC to get to the house we were staying at without stopping.

Rivian R1T R1S Greenville, SC to Panama City Beach, FL Screenshot_20230213-100633


Rivian R1T R1S Greenville, SC to Panama City Beach, FL PXL_20230207_002012130


Once at the house, we were fortunate that the dryer was very close to the carport (close enough for the mobile charger to reach the dryer plug without an extension). I purchased the CircleCord NEMA 10-30p to NEMA 14-50R dongle and it worked fine. For anyone curious, I saw quite a bit of debate about this, but I was able to charge without any issues at 24A from the NEMA 10-30 dryer plug with this adapter. It would be great if Rivian did what Tesla has done and offered other plugs for the mobile charger so you don't need to go on Amazon to get an adapter dongle.

Weather on the return trip was not great (45 degrees, headwind, uphill, some rain) so the efficiency hit was real. Used a different route since I didn't go all the way to 100% on the way out, and we had enough juice to get to Auburn to charge and have lunch.

Rivian R1T R1S Greenville, SC to Panama City Beach, FL Screenshot_20230213-100649


That charging stop got us almost enough juice to make it home, but with the weather it was too risky so we popped in at Commerce (the last DCFC before Greenville) to get enough kwh to make it home.

Rivian R1T R1S Greenville, SC to Panama City Beach, FL PXL_20230213_005053477

Rivian R1T R1S Greenville, SC to Panama City Beach, FL PXL_20230213_005058939


In summary, the R1T is more than capable for this type of trip and did great. Total cost of public charging came out to about $45 or $.04 per mile. If you add in the $30 for the adapter plug it comes to $.07 per mile. We didn't encounter any charging issues and maintained good speed for the entire trip. Required charging didn't require us to linger around any longer than we would have or stop more frequently than we would have with a 2 year old. The truck bed allowed us to bring a ton of stuff that we never would have been able to bring in our Mazda or any other midsize SUV. The frunk and gear tunnel give you a ton of flexibility for different storage options that just don't exist in other trucks so you aren't 100% reliant on the bed. For cruising, the truck is very comfortable on longer trips. My wife and mother in law rode in the back the whole way with a front facing car seat between them and were comfortable for the entire drive. There are certainly areas of the country where this type of trip would have been more daunting due to charging availability but it didn't become an issue for us at all and it's good to know that it will only get better from here as more chargers come on line.
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How was the charging in Panama City? I'm planning on making the trip from Texas later this year. From what I've seen on the various charging maps, its pretty limited.

Also, not sure if you or anyone else who chimes in here knows but, does the nema adapter bundle from Tesla work with the rivian portable evse? I was planning on doing a separate post soon but since you mentioned it I though I'd ask. https://shop.tesla.com/product/nema-adapter-bundle
 
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How was the charging in Panama City? I'm planning on making the trip from Texas later this year. From what I've seen on the various charging maps, its pretty limited.

Also, not sure if you or anyone else who chimes in here knows but, does the nema adapter bundle from Tesla work with the rivian portable evse? I was planning on doing a separate post soon but since you mentioned it I though I'd ask. https://shop.tesla.com/product/nema-adapter-bundle
Charging in PC/PCB proper is very limited. There's essentially no DCFC without driving to Chipley or Destin (the only exception being a Harley Davidson dealer that seems unreliable at best). There is some, but not much, L2 charging that's publicly available and a few hotels that have charging in their parking area. I was fortunate that our rental house had an accessible dryer plug.

When I was researching the dongle that I ended up purchasing I had the same question as you regarding the Tesla adapters. They look like the same plug as Rivian's but that doesn't mean a lot. I'm sure there are Tesla owners who have other adapters who could test it out because that would obviously be nice to know one way or another.
 

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When I was researching the dongle that I ended up purchasing I had the same question as you regarding the Tesla adapters. They look like the same plug as Rivian's but that doesn't mean a lot. I'm sure there are Tesla owners who have other adapters who could test it out because that would obviously be nice to know one way or another.
Caveat I've never actually used the Tesla mobile charger, but don't their plug adapters also reconfigure the charger to set the pilot signal to the vehicle to an appropriate value too? So if you plugged in a NEMA 14-30 adapter it would derate to 24A without having to tell the vehicle to derate manually?

Obviously you knew to do that already, but definitely a safety note for anyone else looking to use adapters. Ensure you know the rating for the plug/breaker you're plugging into. The Rivian mobile charger is a 32A (40A breaker required) charger. If you adapt it for something less than a 40A breaker, make sure you set the truck to no more than 80% of the breaker's current rating.
 
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Caveat I've never actually used the Tesla mobile charger, but don't their plug adapters also reconfigure the charger to set the pilot signal to the vehicle to an appropriate value too? So if you plugged in a NEMA 14-30 adapter it would derate to 24A without having to tell the vehicle to derate manually?

Obviously you knew to do that already, but definitely a safety note for anyone else looking to use adapters. Ensure you know the rating for the plug/breaker you're plugging into. The Rivian mobile charger is a 32A (40A breaker required) charger. If you adapt it for something less than a 40A breaker, make sure you set the truck to no more than 80% of the breaker's current rating.
A few of the negative reviews for the adapter I purchased showed melted plugs and I assume that at least some of them were pushing 30+ amps through it while charging. One particularly humorous answer to a question on Amazon about charge speed said "I have been charging at 32amps without any issues" to which I just shook my head and hope that person doesn't burn their house down.
 

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A few of the negative reviews for the adapter I purchased showed melted plugs and I assume that at least some of them were pushing 30+ amps through it while charging. One particularly humorous answer to a question on Amazon about charge speed said "I have been charging at 32amps without any issues" to which I just shook my head and hope that person doesn't burn their house down.
Only took about 30 seconds at 32A on a TT-30 at a campground to trip the breaker, which also caused the breaker to commit suicide as I couldn't reset it and they had to replace it.

I'm guessing anyone charging at 32A for any period of time on a 30A outlet either has the wrong size breaker on it or the breaker isn't going to trip regardless of the current you pull on it. Scary.
 
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Only took about 30 seconds at 32A on a TT-30 at a campground to trip the breaker, which also caused the breaker to commit suicide as I couldn't reset it and they had to replace it.

I'm guessing anyone charging at 32A for any period of time on a 30A outlet either has the wrong size breaker on it or the breaker isn't going to trip regardless of the current you pull on it. Scary.
This is the adapter I used Link and here is a screenshot of the "answer" provided.

Rivian R1T R1S Greenville, SC to Panama City Beach, FL CircleCord Answers
 

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This is the adapter I used Link and here is a screenshot of the "answer" provided.

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I'm guessing it's one of those Amazon listings that combine related parts? Those should be illegal to show reviews this way.
 

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Charging in PC/PCB proper is very limited. There's essentially no DCFC without driving to Chipley or Destin (the only exception being a Harley Davidson dealer that seems unreliable at best). There is some, but not much, L2 charging that's publicly available and a few hotels that have charging in their parking area. I was fortunate that our rental house had an accessible dryer plug.

When I was researching the dongle that I ended up purchasing I had the same question as you regarding the Tesla adapters. They look like the same plug as Rivian's but that doesn't mean a lot. I'm sure there are Tesla owners who have other adapters who could test it out because that would obviously be nice to know one way or another.
I was just in Destin last week, there are no DCFC chargers there. I went by Chipley going into Destin to charge and used the DCFC charger in Pensacola on the way out of Destin to CA.

There were some L2 chargers I used in Destin, I used these Tesla Destination Charger while there, they were free. I used this adapter, when I plugged into the car it goes red for a minute or 2 but then went green a started charging.

By the way, Electrify America chargers in Texas are very cheap, they charge by the minute and easily were 1/3 to 1/2 the cost of the chargers that were by the KW elsewhere. Texas is a huge state, nearly half of the drive on I-10 from Pensacola, FL to Orange County, CA. I maximized my charging stops in Texas and did the 2100 miles for $166 dollars in the R1S.
 

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I live in the area and only use one charger sometimes. I have my garage rivian charger 95+%. But I live in area so no worries. I don’t think we have much going for us really as far as true fast chargers but fortunately I don’t need it as I can charge at home.
 

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That efficiency makes me so jealous! I never average more than about 1.8 over any real distance. Typically more like 1.7. I may have to invest in a set of 21s!
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