? Rivian Adopts Tesla NACS Standard! (Adapters in 2024, Standard Charging Port in 2025)

[evguy]

Yes.

Beginning in 2025, right? Until then, it's CCS.

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[Tahoe Man]

You always have Chargepoint, EVgo and many others if SC pricing is

Does it matter? It makes your Rivian more valuable because you can go more places far easier. That's easily worth $500 to me but I don't care what it cost. I'm buying on day 1.

Agree. If your overall charging cost is 20c/kwh and your ratio of home vs fast charging is 90:10 then why should anyone really care what the DCFC cost is. I say raise the cost so the operators can make a nice penny which creates an incentive to install more

 

[Acoustic71]

Tesla peeps are going to be pissed lol

Tesla peeps are always pissed. At least that has been my experience, even when having the audacity of using a free Tesla Destination Charger at a hotel/motel. I had one owner furious at me a few weeks ago in May, as there were four chargers barely working and he demanded that I unplug as I was "drawing all the juice'. He was in his high-end Tesla; me in my R1T; another fellow with an older Tesla; and another with an i3. I attempted to explain that none of us would have an advantage over the other, and that sent him into a rage, and he stormed off.

Later that evening "someone" reset the charger I was on, effectively killing the charge. When I should have walked out in the morning with a full charge, I gained a grand total of 9 miles.

So, I will wait for the adaptor that Rivian is making/providing, if and when they ever do. In the meantime I will continue to use the RAN network wherever possible, and supplement those with EA as needed. Tesla Destination Chargers are hit or miss at best, even they are all over where I normally travel. Your mileage may very. Tesla is on my radar if and when anything actually happens.

 

[dleepnw]

who needs RAN when you can have access to all the tesla supercharger? They might as well stop making RAN

no, we need RAN and 3rd party to keep building out.

Supercharger network is already strained in large metro areas. with EV adoption growing quickly, we need as many chargers being built as possible. remember, its not the same as gas. we need more stations per vehicle because it take longer to charge.

and a very important point that most seem to be forgetting is that Tesla SC stations are designed for Teslas. the cable is short and designed to plug into the back drivers side of the vehicke. Rivian is going to have difficulty charging at any existing SC station as configured. see the video MKBHD made about trying to charge his R1T at a SC station with the Magic dock.

and RAN is targeting more remote areas, which is mostly the opposite of the areas that Tesla targets with Superchargers.

 

[swgamerx]

This is great, however I would prefer a retrofit kit to an adapter, maybe they can offer that as a service station product? Id be willing to pay for it.

 

[DuoRivians]

Rivian should announce an expected price increase in 2025. This would offset those who plan on delaying their orders because of this

 

[Tahoe Man]

I have said RAN was a waste of money from the beginning. Makes no sense to be in power distribution business...

Agree, it's a distraction from their core business. With this announcement they need to just kill off the RAN network once and for all. Rivian isn't Tesla, nobody knows what a RAN charger is anyways. Installing these things in odd locations doesn't help them either. Rivian isn't going to be some energy provider so just focus on truck/SUV products.

 

[alextakesphotos]

Tesla peeps are always pissed. At least that has been my experience, even when having the audacity of using a free Tesla Destination Charger at a hotel/motel. I had one owner furious at me a few weeks ago in May, as there were four chargers barely working and he demanded that I unplug as I was "drawing all the juice'. He was in his high-end Tesla; me in my R1T; another fellow with an older Tesla; and another with an i3. I attempted to explain that none of us would have an advantage over the other, and that sent him into a rage, and he stormed off.

Later that evening "someone" reset the charger I was on, effectively killing the charge. When I should have walked out in the morning with a full charge, I gained a grand total of 9 miles.

So, I will wait for the adaptor that Rivian is making/providing, if and when they ever do. In the meantime I will continue to use the RAN network wherever possible, and supplement those with EA as needed. Tesla Destination Chargers are hit or miss at best, even they are all over where I normally travel. Your mileage may very. Tesla is on my radar if and when anything actually happens.

Wow that is crappy! It will be nice to have that option of the Tesla SC but it for sure will be my last resort. I dont want to be dealing with people like this...

 

[docwhiz]

Good news. I also agree with that Rivian should keep going with RAN; but only in National Parks and State Parks or similar areas.

For New Mexico: White Sands needs a RAN immediately. Elephant Butte too. For the Northern part, Navajo Lake and Chaco Canyon. Carlsbad Caverns in the far south.

I appreciated the RAN/Waypoint in Yosemite NP last week (to charge my Tesla).

 

[Fclmd]

Rivian just sent out official email…

I hope this is a charging adapter actually available in the gear shop- not like the “spare R1S tire available in gear shop for purchase”

And I hope the cost is comparable and will support actual supercharging power flow.
Fingers crossed!

 

[Tahoe Man]

Tesla peeps are always pissed. At least that has been my experience, even when having the audacity of using a free Tesla Destination Charger at a hotel/motel. I had one owner furious at me a few weeks ago in May, as there were four chargers barely working and he demanded that I unplug as I was "drawing all the juice'. He was in his high-end Tesla; me in my R1T; another fellow with an older Tesla; and another with an i3. I attempted to explain that none of us would have an advantage over the other, and that sent him into a rage, and he stormed off.

Later that evening "someone" reset the charger I was on, effectively killing the charge. When I should have walked out in the morning with a full charge, I gained a grand total of 9 miles.

So, I will wait for the adaptor that Rivian is making/providing, if and when they ever do. In the meantime I will continue to use the RAN network wherever possible, and supplement those with EA as needed. Tesla Destination Chargers are hit or miss at best, even they are all over where I normally travel. Your mileage may very. Tesla is on my radar if and when anything actually happens.

Are you fricken serious? That's insane, people are such f'ing dumbshits. Good you kept your cool, I think I would have gone postal.

 

[s4wrxttcs]

You go to the 'dealer' lot and there are two R1Ts. One has a NACS port and one has a CCS port and both are the same cost, which one do you buy if all else is equal?

It's not complicated... its all about perceived convenience or obsolescence

I can certainly see having anything that's perceived as obsolete will decrease the price.

But, in reality I don't think there is going to be any way to avoid having both CCS and NACS capabilities at least for the 5+ years. Where someone has to carry an adapter on a road trip regardless of what Port they have on their vehicle.

By 2025 I expect new R1T's coming off the line will have a lot of things (like a heat pump) that I don't have in addition to the NACS port. It will just be one more way my vehicle is obsolete.

With my Tesla Model 3P there was this perception that the car would gain in value due to FSD, but then Tesla switched from HW3 (what I had) to HW4 with no upgrade path. Luckily I had traded it in before the whole HW4 thing.

 

[MP3Mike]

Agree, it's a distraction from their core business. With this announcement they need to just kill off the RAN network once and for all. Rivian isn't Tesla, nobody knows what a RAN charger is anyways. Installing these things in odd locations doesn't help them either. Rivian isn't going to be some energy provider so just focus on truck/SUV products.

I'd like to see Rivian partner with Tesla on the RAN as I'm sure that Tesla can do the installs quicker/cheaper than Rivian. So maybe Rivian can put some funds in to select "adventure" locations for Tesla to open. It would be good if they could be V4/MagicDock locations. That could benefit the customers of both companies...

 

[E-lectric]

Being a retired LE I am waiting for the first disagreement, fight, shooting, or worse death due to an altercation at a Tesla supercharger involving a Tesla vs. other manufacturer driver. We all know how there are fewer fires per 100,000 of EVs vs anything else by a huge amount, but each EV fire is sure to make the news and pointed out to us by all our ICE owner friends. Just saying as we have a Tesla and a Rivian.

 

[s4wrxttcs]

Would love to see a RAN in death valley

If its an R1S you'll hear it coming from miles away.

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