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Just out of curiosity

How much money would it take you to live with the damage?

I imagine if I had minor body damage like that it would take less than $50K to live with the problem.

As long as its less than the retail hit then I'm fine.
Yeah, PDR as best as possible, buff it, and replace the black trim under bumper. Then maybe someone could live with it.
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Just received an estimate to repair the drivers side rear quarter panel, tailgate shell and rear bumper. Luckily the damage was caused by a neighbor who bumped my R1S during the holidays.
Estimated Repair Cost: $49,880.
Did they provide an itemized list of the costs? That is insane.
 

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Wow. Take the money, leave the damage. All looks superficial. Maybe try to have a PDR guy make it a little better.
 
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Yeah, PDR as best as possible, buff it, and replace the black trim under bumper. Then maybe someone could live with it.
Yeah, PDR as best as possible, buff it, and replace the black trim under bumper. Then maybe someone could live with it.
Truth be told, I could live with it, maybe have my local shop fix what they can. Frankly this is absurd! The labor was $26,000 not including paint work. Frankly I don’t want to own a car that costs this much to repair and my other cars are a Cayenne and a 400e convertible! So I’m used expensive cars and repairs.
 

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It isnt sustainable... But thats Rivian for you. You cant just replace a quarter panel, nope..

You got to replace the whole side of the truck, from the windshield all the back.

Its one of the things that makes Rivian owners scratch their head.

They couldnt just go with the industry standard and have panels, with split seams, welding, and sealant.

On the other hand, if you are rich, you get into a minor accident, theres a good chance you are just getting a new car. Soo....
Isn’t Tesla doing the same with the giga press, one giant piece?
 

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Dont know a lot about Tesla.. So dont know.
 

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this example was just the rear quarter panel. Rivian sent the entire one piece body for that side and the repair shop cut the piece on the panel and the matching piece on the truck - yikes! seems like they did a good job but if someone cuts it wrong, thats going to double the cost. total cost was $15k.

and lets not forget about paint. they tried to match but isn't exact. luckily for him its white so hard to tell.

this is definitely going to increase insurance rates. if you haven't experienced it already, when it comes time to renew youre going to find that your rate goes up even if you have no accidents/tickets/claims (likje me). its crazy right now.

 

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I'm hearing figures around $6,000 annual premium quotes for leased EVs. Anyone else validating this claim ?
 
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Yeah, PDR as best as possible, buff it, and replace the black trim under bumper. Then maybe someone could live with it.
Very similar experience with my R1S. Almost identical. I took it to a "Rivian" approved body shop and go a similar quote. I was furious and called Rivian. They put me in touch with one of their accident team members. They worked with me with another body shop. The cost went below 10k. Rivian is trying to work this out and as a list of shops that work with them in a better manner. 1st shop wanted to replace the whole rear panel which would involve cutting the metal and really doing a lot of unnecessary repair. The other shop did the majority through pulling the metal and not having to replace the rear panel...saving a ton of work.

That said it was only the rear body and brake light, no bumper. Contact the Rivian support people and they will help you find other shops.
 

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This is completely insane. I did see the video of the guy doing the PDR and the result was very very good look to me like it didn't happen.

With that said, why would Rivian design it this way?

Insurance has been fairly inexpensive on the Rivians compared to the Tesla. It's actually quite a bit less than my Tesla Model Y was. If they have a lot of losses like these that's not going to last long insurance rates are going to go through the roof on Rivian.

Isn't there a rule that the insurance company goes by as far as total losses going completely off memory here, but I thought someone told me at one point, once repairs get to 75% of ACV most insurance companies will consider declaring it a total loss.

If the repair cost is 50,000 and the truck is worth 75.., it seems to me they might declare that a total loss. Especially if you consider that when they repair such a new expensive vehicle, the owner is more likely to file a diminished value claim as well.

Half of that is labor? ?. Seems like I'm in the wrong business. I mean come on if their labor rate is $200 an hour. That's 130 hours!
 

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Its not only diminished value... Rental costs come in to play too. Not to mention, every body shop I have ever worked with has had to file addendums to the repair because of things that broke during disassembly, or hidden damage. And insurance companies already have factored that in.

So if you get an estimate for say 50k. They will figure a 10-15% addendum, plus another $2-3000 for insurance. You are getting really close to $60k. 75% of a 75k ACV is $56250. At these prices, it will likely get transferred over to the total loss team.
 
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Good thing you don't have a CT. Your neighbor would be dead. ?
 
 








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