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Even at 1000 a month, it’ll be 22 months at least for me. Don’t forget about the R1Ts that are ahead of you :angry:
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Even though I’m promised an adapter from Ford and Rivian, the former in June, just bit the bullet in the A2Z. Who knows when the other adapters are actually going to ship.
 

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Even at 1000 a month, it’ll be 22 months at least for me. Don’t forget about the R1Ts that are ahead of you :angry:
There’s roughly 100k R1’s on the road at this point.

Plus they’ll be building something in the neighborhood of 15k to 18k per quarter once the factory is back in full swing.

They need to be delivering something like 40k+ adapters per quarter to clear the backlog in the next year.
 

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There’s roughly 100k R1’s on the road at this point.

Plus they’ll be building something in the neighborhood of 15k to 18k per quarter once the factory is back in full swing.

They need to be delivering something like 40k+ adapters per quarter to clear the backlog in the next year.
No, the 100k number included EDV.
 

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It probably makes sense if it will make a difference to your summer road trips.

NACS doesn't really make a difference for my road-trip choices, so I'm holding off. I'm still highly annoyed at Tesla for the delay, since my assumption is that it's their fault.
Highly annoyed? Then don't use the network.
 

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Highly annoyed? Then don't use the network.
I think it’s fair to be annoyed that Tesla is seemingly not living up to their commitments.

While it doesn’t apply to me, some people are making entire car purchase decisions based on the assumption of NACS availability.

I had no expectation of getting a free adapter when I bought the truck. But that expectation was built when Tesla + Rivian promised one. Walking back a commitment made less than a year ago breaks trust and causes a loss in confidence.

Changing that commitment to an ability to buy an adapter that tech support won’t talk to you about and will possibly void your warranty isn’t exactly a reasonable solution.

More than contractual commitments, the entire industry transition to NACS is based on trust. There needs to be trust that Tesla will honor their commitments on the supercharger network. There needs to be trust that alternative options will be available soon in places that only have V1/V2 superchargers. There needs to be trust that non-Tesla car makers will commit to write and maintain quality software for Supercharger integration.

I hope I’m wrong and there’s thousands of NACS adapters on a cargo ship in the pacific that will be bulk shipped in a few short weeks. But the complete lack of communication leads me to expect much less. If everything is still on track, all we need is a little communication on what’s actually going on. It’s not an unreasonable ask.
 

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I think it’s fair to be annoyed that Tesla is seemingly not living up to their commitments.

While it doesn’t apply to me, some people are making entire car purchase decisions based on the assumption of NACS availability.

I had no expectation of getting a free adapter when I bought the truck. But that expectation was built when Tesla + Rivian promised one. Walking back a commitment made less than a year ago breaks trust and causes a loss in confidence.

Changing that commitment to an ability to buy an adapter that tech support won’t talk to you about and will possibly void your warranty isn’t exactly a reasonable solution.

More than contractual commitments, the entire industry transition to NACS is based on trust. There needs to be trust that Tesla will honor their commitments on the supercharger network. There needs to be trust that alternative options will be available soon in places that only have V1/V2 superchargers. There needs to be trust that non-Tesla car makers will commit to write and maintain quality software for Supercharger integration.

I hope I’m wrong and there’s thousands of NACS adapters on a cargo ship in the pacific that will be bulk shipped in a few short weeks. But the complete lack of communication leads me to expect much less. If everything is still on track, all we need is a little communication on what’s actually going on. It’s not an unreasonable ask.
This! Spot on!
 

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I think it’s fair to be annoyed that Tesla is seemingly not living up to their commitments.

While it doesn’t apply to me, some people are making entire car purchase decisions based on the assumption of NACS availability.

I had no expectation of getting a free adapter when I bought the truck. But that expectation was built when Tesla + Rivian promised one. Walking back a commitment made less than a year ago breaks trust and causes a loss in confidence.

Changing that commitment to an ability to buy an adapter that tech support won’t talk to you about and will possibly void your warranty isn’t exactly a reasonable solution.

More than contractual commitments, the entire industry transition to NACS is based on trust. There needs to be trust that Tesla will honor their commitments on the supercharger network. There needs to be trust that alternative options will be available soon in places that only have V1/V2 superchargers. There needs to be trust that non-Tesla car makers will commit to write and maintain quality software for Supercharger integration.

I hope I’m wrong and there’s thousands of NACS adapters on a cargo ship in the pacific that will be bulk shipped in a few short weeks. But the complete lack of communication leads me to expect much less. If everything is still on track, all we need is a little communication on what’s actually going on. It’s not an unreasonable ask.
Spot on indeed.
They should have a certification process for 3rd party adapters and just let us all buy those at our discretion, and have them covered in the warranty.
 

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I think it’s fair to be annoyed that Tesla is seemingly not living up to their commitments.

While it doesn’t apply to me, some people are making entire car purchase decisions based on the assumption of NACS availability.

I had no expectation of getting a free adapter when I bought the truck. But that expectation was built when Tesla + Rivian promised one. Walking back a commitment made less than a year ago breaks trust and causes a loss in confidence.

Changing that commitment to an ability to buy an adapter that tech support won’t talk to you about and will possibly void your warranty isn’t exactly a reasonable solution.

More than contractual commitments, the entire industry transition to NACS is based on trust. There needs to be trust that Tesla will honor their commitments on the supercharger network. There needs to be trust that alternative options will be available soon in places that only have V1/V2 superchargers. There needs to be trust that non-Tesla car makers will commit to write and maintain quality software for Supercharger integration.

I hope I’m wrong and there’s thousands of NACS adapters on a cargo ship in the pacific that will be bulk shipped in a few short weeks. But the complete lack of communication leads me to expect much less. If everything is still on track, all we need is a little communication on what’s actually going on. It’s not an unreasonable ask.
We've been told they're being made at a factory in Buffalo.
 

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Tesla might not have a choice. Isn't this gov't funding related too?

They might just be stalling as long as possible to find their way out of it or maybe extract more money out from other manufacturers to increase their revenue a bit.
Tesla isn't getting any government money except as part of the NEVI grants awarded to states and then by the states to parties who are building, operating, and maintaining the actual chargers the state chooses. As long as the NEVI-funded Tesla chargers have a Magic Dock, they should meet the requirements. In fact, the Magic Dock is a requirement no matter what happens with the broader opening of the network because the NEVI regs still require a physical CCS connector on the charger itself.
 

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Despite how long it may take to get our free adapters, we're fortunate that Rivian sealed the Supercharger access deal with Tesla before Elon rapidly disassembled the SC team. I have an upcoming trip that would be very painful to complete without access to Tesla SC so I ordered the A2Z NACS adapter and am looking at delivery before my trip.
 

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Even though I’m promised an adapter from Ford and Rivian, the former in June, just bit the bullet in the A2Z. Who knows when the other adapters are actually going to ship.
Just turned in my Mach E curious if my adapter will still ship, was suppose to be delivered in May but we know Ford's story on filling orders out of order..was sub 5k I own both adapters from A2Z ..bonus if Ford still ships the adapter
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