JackStands with Rivian

[JamboF4]

With a piece of wood to prevent gouging.

Good call on the wood. ALWAYS makes me nervous to use suspension components, but I’m convinced now….OK, now f I just had a spare! Haha

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[FooF]

If tall enough, these ESCO stands are well regarded. https://a.co/d/2EicR2c

ESCO stands are super beefy and well built compared to others I have seen.

 

[Greg Chick]

It seems better to lift via the puck port, then place a stand under the wheel suspension arm. My issue with that is the jack will need a high enough lift to make a 1" or so gap under the tire? Also I recognize the need for a best surface contact under the suspension arm to avoid slippage or damage.
Such a task requires some measuring of jack and stand capacities in advance.

 

[MtLemmon]

What I do is use either our regular magnetic jack pucks or our XL (high lift) version inserted into the front left and right rear ports. I then use two high lift floor jacks (you could use a 10T bottle jack and my XL pucks as well) and lift the entire vehicle off the ground and insert two jack stands in the open locations. I do it this way because I want to avoid a control arm lift of the vehicle (just my preference). I can do anything at that point with the two jack stands in place.

The jack stands I use are compatible with my magnetic jack pucks, so it's a clean lift of the entire vehicle.

I recently received your jack pucks but I would like to better understand your methodology described above. How do you keep the R1T from tipping along the diagonal supported axis (with perhaps disastrous results) when the entire vehicle is off the ground and before you place your jack stands under the two unsupported puck locations? Do you have a safe procedure for this? Otherwise it seems like an efficient method for doing a tire rotation.

Secondly, when considering a one side at a time tire rotation, can you stack your pucks? My existing floor jack range is about an inch short of lifting the tire off the ground.

 

[Mark_AZR1T]

I recently received your jack pucks but I would like to better understand your methodology described above. How do you keep the R1T from tipping along the diagonal supported axis (with perhaps disastrous results) when the entire vehicle is off the ground and before you place your jack stands under the two unsupported puck locations? Do you have a safe procedure for this? Otherwise it seems like an efficient method for doing a tire rotation.

Secondly, when considering a one side at a time tire rotation, can you stack your pucks? My existing floor jack range is about an inch short of lifting the tire off the ground.

Thank you for being a customer, we appreciate that. Yes, our pucks can be stacked, that is part of the original design. I leave the wheels on the vehicle, when lifting from alternate corners and then place the jack stands in open ports, at which time I lower the truck onto the jack stands and use the other two floor jacks for support when rotating.

 

[MtLemmon]

I leave the wheels on the vehicle, when lifting from alternate corners and then place the jack stands in open ports, at which time I lower the truck onto the jack stands and use the other two floor jacks for support when rotating.

So the truck doesn't teeter or dip toward the unsupported corners when all wheels are off the ground but before you can place the jack stands?

 

[Mark_AZR1T]

So the truck doesn't teeter or dip toward the unsupported corners when all wheels are off the ground but before you can place the jack stands?

My R1T is more stable than my wifes R1S (haven't thought that through), when using the alternate jack method. The rear suspension on the R1 vehicles has more suspension droop than the front , as your lifting the rear. This causes any jack (floor or bottle) to shift along with the travel. It shifts inwards. If you have a flat surface, and a good floor jack, then the floor jack shifts along with the lifting of the rear (this is good). With a bottle jack, as it shifts you will need to reposition it accordingly.

For a tire rotation, I use two floor jacks and two bottle jacks, but many would not be comfortable doing that. I've done the last 4 this way. If using the alternate corner method to lift the vehicle (as I mentioned in this thread), you will get some sway. In order to minimize this, lift the rear first and let the floor jack travel as the suspension articulates, then do the opposite front corner. It will have some inherrent instability, but on my R1T it is minimal and I then place the jack stands in place..

Hope this helps. YMMV

 

[Erik+]

My R1T is more stable than my wifes R1S (haven't thought that through), when using the alternate jack method. The rear suspension on the R1 vehicles has more suspension droop than the front , as your lifting the rear. This causes any jack (floor or bottle) to shift along with the travel. It shifts inwards. If you have a flat surface, and a good floor jack, then the floor jack shifts along with the lifting of the rear (this is good). With a bottle jack, as it shifts you will need to reposition it accordingly.

For a tire rotation, I use two floor jacks and two bottle jacks, but many would not be comfortable doing that. I've done the last 4 this way. If using the alternate corner method to lift the vehicle (as I mentioned in this thread), you will get some sway. In order to minimize this, lift the rear first and let the floor jack travel as the suspension articulates, then do the opposite front corner. It will have some inherrent instability, but on my R1T it is minimal and I then place the jack stands in place..

Hope this helps. YMMV

Helpful thread. As a newish R1T owner that couldn't fathom bringing my truck to a tire store for for a simple rotation. Also very useful for those now putting on winter tires.

I have 2 bottle jacks and one floor jack and at least 4 jackstands. Pretty sure I have enough to get it done, but was pondering the same thing about only using lift points vs stands under control arms. Guess I could always get a 2nd floor jack too since the one I have may want a friend.

 

[UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan]

Helpful thread. As a newish R1T owner that couldn't fathom bringing my truck to a tire store for for a simple rotation. Also very useful for those now putting on winter tires.

I have 2 bottle jacks and one floor jack and at least 4 jackstands. Pretty sure I have enough to get it done, but was pondering the same thing about only using lift points vs stands under control arms. Guess I could always get a 2nd floor jack too since the one I have may want a friend.

Harbor Freight's Badland 3-ton is a tank. Nearly identical to the Pro Eagle. But you can also get another HF floor jack if you don't need one that could be used on soft ground.

 

[madgrey]

With a piece of wood to prevent gouging.

I highly recommend NOT using wood in any vehicle lifting scenario other than maybe a flat piece under a tire, jack, or ramp to give you a bit more lift/clearance. Sure, "it worked the last time" but I don't see a load rating on my random piece of wood...

Some lift points are not perfectly flat over a large enough area and present a point load to the wood. I've seen 2x4s split, even before the full weight of the vehicle was on the jack. Imagine unloading a jack onto a jack stand with a piece of wood there only to find out the wood splits and the jack moves dangerously, perhaps under some other component. Definitely an "oh shit" moment (from experience).

 

[jplblue]

I highly recommend NOT using wood in any vehicle lifting scenario other than maybe a flat piece under a tire, jack, or ramp to give you a bit more lift/clearance. Sure, "it worked the last time" but I don't see a load rating on my random piece of wood...

Some lift points are not perfectly flat over a large enough area and present a point load to the wood. I've seen 2x4s split, even before the full weight of the vehicle was on the jack. Imagine unloading a jack onto a jack stand with a piece of wood there only to find out the wood splits and the jack moves dangerously, perhaps under some other component. Definitely an "oh shit" moment (from experience).

That's good advice. I only had to jack it up there for a second to reposition another jack, but your point is well taken.

 

[atebit]

Rennstand claimed that they were going to sell a version that was high enough for the R1, but after nearly two years I still don’t see any announcements on their site about it.

 

[UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan]

Rennstand claimed that they were going to sell a version that was high enough for the R1, but after nearly two years I still don’t see any announcements on their site about it.

You mean this one? It’s been available, just not sold direct. https://rivianservicetools.com/Catalog/Product/TSN00597-300-E?groupId=146

 

[Singletracker]

I will do a 5 tire rotation requiring only one corner to be lifted at a time. Would still like to have a jack stand under there, somewhere, just in case.

 

[UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan]

I will do a 5 tire rotation requiring only one corner to be lifted at a time. Would still like to have a jack stand under there, somewhere, just in case.

You could add this to the floor jack. https://rivianservicetools.com/Catalog/Product/TSN01284-100-A?groupId=111

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