Rivian API for vehicle data?

[KenJ]

Now that a few vehicles are maybe out in the wild - does anyone know if vehicle data is accessible via API, similar to TeslaFi? Not a burning issue, but love to nerd-out over the energy data, route histories under various operating conditions, etc.

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[sub]

Are there even "a few" non-employee deliveries yet? I doubt employees would be allowed to share details about how to hack into the app's datastream, even if they reverse engineered it on their own time.

 

[KenJ]

Are there even "a few" non-employee deliveries yet? I doubt employees would be allowed to share details about how to hack into the app's datastream, even if they reverse engineered it on their own time.

I don’t think of the Tesla API as “hacking” per se … I think the API is widely known as an unofficial, but documented set of tools open to developers writing apps that support the vehicle. Trying to get into a Tesla’s diagnostic mode or something like that would be “hacking”.

 

[Craigins]

I don’t think of the Tesla API as “hacking” per se … I think the API is widely known as an unofficial, but documented set of tools open to developers writing apps that support the vehicle. Trying to get into a Tesla’s diagnostic mode or something like that would be “hacking”.

Need to watch the legalese here.

I've seen articles of people using random open home wifi networks and have it being called unauthorized access, since they weren't given permission by the operator.

I'm sure if you read the legal in the app it grants you access to the api through the app, and any other access is unauthorized.

Accessing unauthorized computer systems is a no-no.

 

[Dark-Fx]

There sure is. My guess is as good as yours about if/how you can access it.
https://api.rivian.com/

 

[CommodoreAmiga]

I'm sure if you read the legal in the app it grants you access to the api through the app, and any other access is unauthorized.

I'm not saying it is or isn't legal. I'm just going to point out that companies say a lot of things and that doesn't make them correct.

Ever see a truck with "Not responsible for broken windshields" painted on the back? Courts have routinely rejected that disclaimer and held them liable for damage caused from not properly securing their load.

Ever see a product with a "warranty void if removed" sticker? Not legal.

 

[sub]

I'm not saying it is or isn't legal. I'm just going to point out that companies say a lot of things and that doesn't make them correct.

Ever see a truck with "Not responsible for broken windshields" painted on the back? Courts have routinely rejected that disclaimer and held them liable for damage caused from not properly securing their load.

Ever see a product with a "warranty void if removed" sticker? Not legal.

In this case, it's more the other way around. The courts have interpreted the laws on hacking more broadly than any reasonable person would expect.

From a practical point of view, you are very unlikely to get in trouble reverse engineering the app's API calls as long as you stop ASAP if Rivian complains. We have no idea yet if Rivian is going to complain. I hope they don't complain, or even better I hope they publish an official API for 3rd party developers to us.

 

[KenJ]

In this case, it's more the other way around. The courts have interpreted the laws on hacking more broadly than any reasonable person would expect.

From a practical point of view, you are very unlikely to get in trouble reverse engineering the app's API calls as long as you stop ASAP if Rivian complains. We have no idea yet if Rivian is going to complain. I hope they don't complain, or even better I hope they publish an official API for 3rd party developers to us.

You said it better than I did … it would be nice if they officially supported it.

”Your honor, I withdraw my earlier question.”

 

[pc500]

Someone will reverse engineer it. Someone will post it. Just like Tesla... Just like the Leaf... and just about anything before it.

Give it time.

You can go work on it now if you want. The App is there, so have at it.

Eventually, you'll get a site just like this.

https://www.teslaapi.io/

 

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