Are you sure about this? I'm 99% sure the brake pads engage as soon as you depress the brake pedal more than a 1/2" to 1". If you're just sort of floating on the pedal and disengaging cruise control, then yeah, the pads aren't being used but I thought there were NHTSA standards for the brake pedal that wouldn't allow a vehicle to "brake by wire" using the brake pedal.The other thing to remember when you do use the break pedal to slow down, it is still using the regen and not the break pads , unless you really are standing on the breaks hard.
I do not have anything in writing from the Rivian. I have heard it mentioned in interbviws, and was my years experience from my tesla. Lastly You can see it for yourself when you you are going fast with low regen and you press the break you can watch the regen increase as you press harder in the break.Are you sure about this? I'm 99% sure the brake pads engage as soon as you depress the brake pedal more than a 1/2" to 1". If you're just sort of floating on the pedal and disengaging cruise control, then yeah, the pads aren't being used but I thought there were NHTSA standards for the brake pedal that wouldn't allow a vehicle to "brake by wire" using the brake pedal.
Do you have any info on this? I'm super curious if Rivian is somehow doing this.
OK well, I'll try to find more information on it.I do not have anything in writing from the Rivian. I have heard it mentioned in interbviws, and was my years experience from my tesla. Lastly You can see it for yourself when you you are going fast with low regen and you press the break you can watch the regen increase as you press harder in the break.
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with brake assist turned off
What is "brake assist"? Is this an option only on certain models (I have a '24 Dual and can't find it on my screen)?Never use brake assist
It's enabled by default. The feature was introduced in 2023.50 to blend physical brakes with regenerative braking to maintain consistent experience (such as when you have a high state of charge, regenerative braking is degenerated due to heat or cold, when you're driving excessively downhill, etc). It's a feature you have to intentionally disable if you don't want it:What is "brake assist"? Is this an option only on certain models (I have a '24 Dual and can't find it on my screen)?
I'm on 'Standard', btw. Never tried High or Low...just comfortable w/ the standard mode.
Thanks, I'll check it out in a bit. I searched "brake assist" in the online help, but didn't see anything come up. Admittedly, I only glanced at the topics, but didn't see anything in the first few hits.It's enabled by default. The feature was introduced in 2023.50 to blend physical brakes with regenerative braking to maintain consistent experience (such as when you have a high state of charge, regenerative braking is degenerated due to heat or cold, when you're driving excessively downhill, etc). It's a feature you have to intentionally disable if you don't want it:
Settings > Driver+ > Regen Brake Assist
I also thought the brake pedal was friction onlyAre you sure about this? I'm 99% sure the brake pads engage as soon as you depress the brake pedal more than a 1/2" to 1". If you're just sort of floating on the pedal and disengaging cruise control, then yeah, the pads aren't being used but I thought there were NHTSA standards for the brake pedal that wouldn't allow a vehicle to "brake by wire" using the brake pedal.
Do you have any info on this? I'm super curious if Rivian is somehow doing this.
I'm not sure that gauge is actually showing amount of regen, it may just be showing amount of braking power. Not exactly the same but relevant section from the owner's guideI do not have anything in writing from the Rivian. I have heard it mentioned in interbviws, and was my years experience from my tesla. Lastly You can see it for yourself when you you are going fast with low regen and you press the break you can watch the regen increase as you press harder in the break.
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(Standard Rivian falling over themselves to avoid giving us direct info / make things confusing)The bottom half shows the deceleration rate in green, a combined value of regenerative braking and any supplemental braking from Regenerative Braking Assist.
I am a little disappointed that this is the only small part of my original comment that is quoted. As I stated I am historically a single pedal driver from my stick shift and Motorcycle beginnings. In the end I use the break pedal no more in low regen as I did in high regen. My main point of my original comment is even in the highest regen setting you are getting back a fraction of kWh that you use with acceleration. I found that the high regen was slowing the car down more than necessary requiring me to use the acceleration even more to combat the regen, which in the end is using more energy. The lower regen is allowing the car to freely coast a little more with out extra acceleration which should use less kWh. I do not know exactly how much the pads were used in breaking but in my Volt, and my Tesla the regen did work on the break pedal unless you stood on it hard. Neither of those cars ever needed a break job.I'm not sure that gauge is actually showing amount of regen, it may just be showing amount of braking power. Not exactly the same but relevant section from the owner's guide
(Standard Rivian falling over themselves to avoid giving us direct info / make things confusing)