Apple CarPlay coming to rival Tesla

[risingphoenix]

The same number of people aren't buying Teslas and Rivians specifically because the don't have car play as the number of people not buying Mazda Miatas because they don't come with Recaro seats standard. Happy now.

Same amount of people who want an EV Pickup won't buy it and instead buy a Y because it has CarPlay. Such a dumb discussion, who cares this it's internet stupidity and you know it.

not sure if you’re a native English speaker but your logic is crazy train insane.

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[SwampNut]

especially with privacy glass and in the mountains.

The $500 (ish) Wilson mini cell repeater will get around the glass and boost the total usable signal. It's my go-to for boonies adventure travel.

 

[iansriv]

It’s unlikely I’ll use CP. I had it in previous cars and hardly ever used it, but we have to admit, when you purchase a $100,000 car, you really should expect to have the option to use CP if that is what you wish, when much cheaper cars have it available. Allowing CP should not change the efforts from Rivian to create the best software in the industry.

Agree. Interesting thought-I've seen more expensive cars not have CP and more "cheaper" cars have it. Not sure what all that's about. Frankly, I dont care either way.

 

[gultin]

"Its implementation of CarPlay will reportedly showcase CarPlay as a separate window inside the typical Tesla software interface."

This sounds like just clutter. I'd personally strongly prefer a well implemented native interface to this.

AA/CP believers who'd rather die on that hill were never going to be Rivian customers anyway. I feel Tesla cowing to CP is a solution to a problem no one in their customer base asked for. Weird that they're doing this, and I wonder whether it speaks to a slowdown in their native software development.

 

[gultin]

Agree. Interesting thought-I've seen more expensive cars not have CP and more "cheaper" cars have it. Not sure what all that's about. Frankly, I dont care either way.

The cheaper cars have it since their infotainment is usually absolute garbage.

 

[TexasBob]

Siri is flat out terrible. I was an early iphone adopter but crashed out after the iPhone 3 because Android starting making better phones with...larger screens that Apple fought against forever.

I remember walking into an Apple store with my Motorola Droid that had a 4.5 inch screen when the iPhone was still stuck at 3.5 inches (can you imagine these days) and the Apple Dude started spouting nonsense that people don't need or want bigger screens. Yeah right.

Frankly, I hate CarPlay and Apple maps are a joke. AA is superior in my book and Gemini is worlds better than Siri - which is why Apple is leaning on them instead of trying to catch up.

Don't get me wrong, I have a lot of Apple stock and every other product I use (laptops, ipads, desktops, watches, etc) are Apple products. I just can't do iPhones, Siri, or CarPlay.

Yes and I bought a Pixel 10 this year and prepared to unceremoniously toss my iphone 15 pro out the window but then... the integration in the Rivian was super frustrating, I could not get the bluetooth to pick up on voice command, there was no integrated music app except the astonishingly awful youtube which did not have anything close to my $30 / year itunes match (I do not want and will not buy a streaming subscription I want to play my own music that I bought and own without ads or interruptions FGS) and the integrated email app was beyond awful for anything except gmail and cannot handle numerous accounts worth a damn and if you start to move to a bunch of third party alternatives you lose integration with Gemini which was the entire reason to buy the pixel in the first place...

And so back to the iphone and waiting to see. I love the Android hardware and use Gemini all the time on my destop and through the kludgy iphone app, but the basc stuff is too hard. If you or someone can guide me on how to overcome those I would love to dump the iphone (though now that it is adopting Gemini I will probably give them a year).

 

[Acoustic71]

If the Tesla rumors are true, Rivian will have no choice but to offer CP/AA as it would be a significant competitive disadvantage not to do so.

Proof positive that critical thinking is dead.

 

[SASSquatch]

Opening the charging network is not the most significant mistake Tesla has made. Their cars no longer stack up to what else is out there. People made concessions on looks when battery technology wasn't as advanced as it is today. The Tesla models outside of the CT appear utilitarian, and they originate from a time when every mile mattered, as they needed to achieve sufficient range to be a viable transportation option for people.

Tesla updated their batteries and updated the performance, but they never updated the look. For example, my wife's i4M50 appears to be a gas-powered one. It is an attractive-looking car. That's just one example. The Ioniq 5N is an excellent-looking car, as are the Genesis EV models. Most products available at Tesla's price point are more stylish, offering similar performance.

Instead of moderate styling changes on their lineup, they made the CT as a foil to the rest of the line, as if one somehow offset the other. Tesla decided that the move was a minor update on the rest of their cars, when they needed a bigger appearance than what they had, and the CT needed much less of it. Had Tesla made something closer to the R1T, and made the rest of their lineup more in line with the style quality level of everyone else, they would be in a much better position today, even with opening up the Tesla network.

You are assuming logic flows from EM these days. Too many drugs for that unfortunately. Tesla dominated when they were the only serious game in town and it was a novel concept.

EVs aren't novel anymore and as other OEMs got in the game and decided to not attempt to emulate the Tesla experience of driving an appliance to something that resembles and FEELs like an actual car (with buttons) Teslas lost their appeal. Of course EM turning into a psychotic lunatic didn't help matters either.

The thing I love about my GV60 performance is how quiet, fast, and luxurious it is. Genesis also was environmentally responsible with the materials that they used in the interior. Nobody looks at it and immediately thinks its an EV which isn't something I'm necessarily in favor of but it goes to show you how it isn't all that hard to not make something look like an appliance if you actually try.

 

[Hereforthesnacks]

The same number of people aren't buying Teslas and Rivians specifically because the don't have car play as the number of people not buying Mazda Miatas because they don't come with Recaro seats standard. Happy now.

So Rivian just needs to make CarPlay an option? I mean, if we are going to take this solid reasoning to task lol

"Its implementation of CarPlay will reportedly showcase CarPlay as a separate window inside the typical Tesla software interface."

This sounds like just clutter. I'd personally strongly prefer a well implemented native interface to this.

AA/CP believers who'd rather die on that hill were never going to be Rivian customers anyway. I feel Tesla cowing to CP is a solution to a problem no one in their customer base asked for. Weird that they're doing this, and I wonder whether it speaks to a slowdown in their native software development.

eh? Most Tesla owners I know (sadly there are several dozen) want CP as an option.

 

[SASSquatch]

Yes and I bought a Pixel 10 this year and prepared to unceremoniously toss my iphone 15 pro out the window but then... the integration in the Rivian was super frustrating, I could not get the bluetooth to pick up on voice command, there was no integrated music app except the astonishingly awful youtube which did not have anything close to my $30 / year itunes match (I do not want and will not buy a streaming subscription I want to play my own music that I bought and own without ads or interruptions FGS) and the integrated email app was beyond awful for anything except gmail and cannot handle numerous accounts worth a damn and if you start to move to a bunch of third party alternatives you lose integration with Gemini which was the entire reason to buy the pixel in the first place...

And so back to the iphone and waiting to see. I love the Android hardware and use Gemini all the time on my destop and through the kludgy iphone app, but the basc stuff is too hard. If you or someone can guide me on how to overcome those I would love to dump the iphone (though now that it is adopting Gemini I will probably give them a year).

I can't speak to the Pixel phones - I have not owned one. My Android phones for the last 8 or so years have been by OnePlus and I have been very happy with them.

The advantage iPhone has is with integration and Android, by design, struggles with that since there are so many OEMs involved with different skins and tweaks to the OS. The experience is very different across phones, which is unfortunate.

Android just gives you so many more customizations and Apple slowly keeps adding them into the OS so maybe one day I will go back to iPhone but until I can 'ing add 5 icons to the bottom of the dock on the iPhone instead of 4 - Apple can kick rocks. And yes I know you can create a folder and shove as many app icons in their as you want in the dock but that just looks dumb and defeats the purpose of the dock.

 

[savethemanual]

but until I can 'ing add 5 icons to the bottom of the dock on the iPhone instead of 4 - Apple can kick rocks. And yes I know you can create a folder and shove as many app icons in their as you want in the dock but that just looks dumb and defeats the purpose of the dock.

I had NO idea that's a deal breaker for some.....wow, I need to get out more

 

[SASSquatch]

I had NO idea that's a deal breaker for some.....wow, I need to get out more

Less about that specific issue and more about Apple not giving you enough control to customize the phone experience. Marques Brownlee, aka MKBHD, aka the preeminent tech reviewer of the last 20 years on YouTube carries an iPhone for testing purposes but uses his Android phone as his daily phone because he has more customizations and he can't go back from that to a phone that has less.

I agree with him 100%

 

[savethemanual]

Less about that specific issue and more about Apple not giving you enough control to customize the phone experience. Marques Brownlee, aka MKBHD, aka the preeminent tech reviewer of the last 20 years on YouTube carries an iPhone for testing purposes but uses his Android phone as his daily phone because he has more customizations and he can't go back from that to a phone that has less.

I agree with him 100%

Yeah, I get it. Pros and Cons to everything in life...from what I know, they are both great phones it comes down to those details and personal preferences. Kind of like the old battle between Nikon and Canon, they're both fantastic cameras and lenses but once you make the investment into a certain ecosystem it's a pain in the ass to switch.

 

[Donald Stanfield]

You are assuming logic flows from EM these days. Too many drugs for that unfortunately. Tesla dominated when they were the only serious game in town and it was a novel concept.

EVs aren't novel anymore and as other OEMs got in the game and decided to not attempt to emulate the Tesla experience of driving an appliance to something that resembles and FEELs like an actual car (with buttons) Teslas lost their appeal. Of course EM turning into a psychotic lunatic didn't help matters either.

The thing I love about my GV60 performance is how quiet, fast, and luxurious it is. Genesis also was environmentally responsible with the materials that they used in the interior. Nobody looks at it and immediately thinks its an EV which isn't something I'm necessarily in favor of but it goes to show you how it isn't all that hard to not make something look like an appliance if you actually try.

If the GV80 had been out when I bought my R1S it would have been on the shortlist. I probably would have still went with the tri for its athleticism, but I like the styling of the Genesis a fair amount more. Same with the Vistiq.

 

[Donald Stanfield]

Less about that specific issue and more about Apple not giving you enough control to customize the phone experience. Marques Brownlee, aka MKBHD, aka the preeminent tech reviewer of the last 20 years on YouTube carries an iPhone for testing purposes but uses his Android phone as his daily phone because he has more customizations and he can't go back from that to a phone that has less.

I agree with him 100%

I agree too, but that’s the reason I prefer the iPhone. I don’t want to have to make all those setting changes and customizations, I just want the thing to work. I know how to use the iPhone, and it does stuff without my input. It talks to my MacBook better, and using it to sign in with passkeys just worked out of the box.

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