Idle fee hate

[Dark-Fx]

I just got hit with this BS idle fee at a completely empty RAN station. I called customer support and told them their rule is BS and I dont accept it. I requested a refund and they are providing me with it.

Don't care what anyone says, you ain't charging me extra for having my vehicle plugged in after it finished charging when there is zero usage of the entire station.

Perfect example, while doing a cross country trip, I may arrive at one of my destinations late at night, 1am let say. There is a tesla charger on site at the hotel. We arrive with 3%, plug in, and go to bed. We wake up next day, car is at 100% ready for our next leg of the trip. And ZERO idle fees. Why? Because the was no one else charging at the super charger.

And no matter what your opinion is, no one is charging me idles fees for not waking back up at 3am to unplug the car for absolutely no reason.

How about I create a Looking fee, everyone one of your will have to pay me a dollar every time you look at my post.

That's how much this is of a BS fee.

You simply call Rivian and request a refund, and tell them you dont accept this fee because no one was using the chargers at that time.

Rivian probably won't refund your fee the next time, Sovereign Idler.

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[therealcmj]

And no matter what your opinion is, no one is charging me idles fees for not waking back up at 3am to unplug the car for absolutely no reason.

You seem lovely.

Most charging networks charge idle fees. Because they want the chargers to be available for others to use. And routing algorithms actually take into account how many chargers are installed and what percentage of them are actually available for use. You leaving your truck plugged in makes the charger show as unavailable. If there are 6 stalls and you are taking up 1 then that's NBD. But if there were 6 and 4 people were plugged in and idle then I (or the algorithm) will choose a different charging location. And that's bad for business.

Rivian gave you one freebie. Don't count on it happening again.

 

[R1S-DMPerformance]

Rivian probably won't refund your fee the next time, Sovereign Idler.

you owe me a dollar , you just got hit by a Looking fee.

 

[R1S-DMPerformance]

You seem lovely.

Most charging networks charge idle fees. Because they want the chargers to be available for others to use. And routing algorithms actually take into account how many chargers are installed and what percentage of them are actually available for use. You leaving your truck plugged in makes the charger show as unavailable. If there are 6 stalls and you are taking up 1 then that's NBD. But if there were 6 and 4 people were plugged in and idle then I (or the algorithm) will choose a different charging location. And that's bad for business.

Rivian gave you one freebie. Don't count on it happening again.

you owe me a dollar too , you just got hit by a Looking fee.

If the charger had 0 stalls in use when I got there, and still 0 stalls in used other than mine after I finished charging. Then No, every time, there nothing to charge about.

 

[R1S-DMPerformance]

Congratulations for not liking the rules. My advise would be to build your own charging network and put whatever rules you want.

2nd Advise if you arrive near empty late at night at a location would be to go, charge for 5 or 10 mins, unplug, go to sleep. Wake up, plug in while you get coffee/breakfast/brushing teeth sorted out, and be happy.

Being grumpy about rules just make you age faster. Live happy. Charge on

cheers!

Congratulations you owe me a dollar, I imposed a Looking fee rule, and you looked. So since I know you love rules, you can send it to me via zelle or venmo, let me know what works best for ya.

cheers 2 u 2

But really, rules just like laws, need to based on something real. Rules and laws just for shits and giggles or because someone doesnt like something, or because someone has some wishful thinking, are just opinions.

 

[mudito]

Congratulations you owe me a dollar, I imposed a Looking fee rule, and you looked. So since I know you love rules, you can send it to me via zelle or venmo, let me know what works best for ya.

cheers 2 u 2

The worst thing is that you might actually think that you're funny

IF you prove me you're the Owner of this site (RivianForums), I would gladly want to read that the fee you created it's within the Terms&Conditions I've accepted and if that's the case, I tell you what, I pay you 10x your dollar.

Have a nice life!

 

[Dark-Fx]

you owe me a dollar , you just got hit by a Looking fee.

Loser

 

[R1S-DMPerformance]

Loser

Yep that's exactly what idle fees are, loser ideas and opinions. Cuz they do nothing when there are zero stalls being used except yours.

 

[mkhuffman]

Yep that's exactly what idle fees are, loser ideas and opinions. Cuz they do nothing when there are zero stalls being used except yours.

How do you know the station didn't get busy while you were hogging that spot?

You seem pretty self-centered and selfish to me, unless you watched the space the entire time you were hogging it, so that you could move your truck if someone else needed that space. Did you?

Maybe you should get a ICEV instead. People like you are another reason public charging sucks.

 

[CharonPDX]

Idle fee love here.

I've seen too many EA stations with vehicles sitting for *HOURS* after they have finished charging.

Sure, maybe a "no idle fee unless the station is at least half full" rule would be nice - but having no idle fee just encourages bad behavior. When you're done charging, move your frickin' vehicle.

(And yes, I've been hit with an invalid idle fee at a RAN - my R1T stopped charging before it hit my target %, and I was too far away to get back to it before the idle fee grace period ended, so I got a couple $ idle fee. But that was a RAN problem, not an "I was an asshole and purposefully overstayed my charge session" problem.)

 

[CharonPDX]

Yep that's exactly what idle fees are, loser ideas and opinions. Cuz they do nothing when there are zero stalls being used except yours.

They encourage good etiquette, even when it's empty. If you get hit with an idle fee when it's empty, you'll sure as hell remember it and not make the mistake when it's full.

 

[Time2Roll]

Maybe you should get a ICEV instead. People like you are another reason public charging sucks.

Yes while he parks at the pump and leaving the vehicle while going into the travel plaza and spends 20 minutes eating lunch etc.

Meanwhile blocking the only spot I can easily get in and pull through with my truck and RV trailer.
But there is no fee so it is OK.

 

[Polar]

Everyone seems all worked up over some weird/missing post. Just too bad…..

 

[R1S-DMPerformance]

How do you know the station didn't get busy while you were hogging that spot?

You seem pretty self-centered and selfish to me, unless you watched the space the entire time you were hogging it, so that you could move your truck if someone else needed that space. Did you?

Maybe you should get a ICEV instead. People like you are another reason public charging sucks.

When you make posts like these just shows you guys arent actually reading, just spilling out your own idealized opinions.

Read it again, and btw you owe me a Looking fee too, and a second looking fee for having to re-read it, lol.

I never opposed idle fees, but idle fees for the sake of idle fees is not acceptable. That is just childish and wishful thinking, and wishful thinking is what by definition is selfish, Etiquette is selfish, because it is just imposing what YOU may or may not like onto others.

And yes I have been iced, which is why i carry a tow strap with me always. I have hooked it up to the ice vehicle, "politely" relocated it onto the middle of the parking lot driveway, and charged, it was fun doing it to a f350 heavy duty diesel truck with my model x. However that is not even remotely the same thing we are talking about, which is there being no reason for an idle fee to exist when all stalls are empty

The invention of idle fees and congestion fees was for the specific purpose of influencing behavior to facilitate charging for anyone who needs it. However when all stalls are empty, it influences nothing, because the need does not exist.

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