I think they’re considered competitors mostly because Rivian said so, plus the fancy tech and FSD stuff. That’s about it. IMHO, the Toyota bZ Woodland and Subaru Trailseeker are closer competitors to the R2 as actual vehicles than the Tesla, especially now that it turns out they have very similar real-world range to the R2 because of their surprisingly good efficiency.
OOS did ~66 mph and got a range of 253 miles...
R2 looks pretty close to in line with EPA rated highway range if you do 65mph.
https://evbench.pluginpath.com/?dr=All+Wheel+Drive&q=Model+Y&sort=label_comb_range_mi&sel=453,454,1086,760,1087&tab=epa&sub=browse
I agree with @mkhuffman. What is the point of your goal in this post?With more than 100 R2s now appearing in the Roamer dataset, one result is becoming increasingly difficult to ignore: despite the 330-mile headline range, we still don’t have a single recorded R2 drive reaching 260 miles.
The longest is Out of Spec at 256 miles and 2.80 mi/kWh. The next two are 244 miles at 2.90 mi/kWh and 239 miles at 2.91 mi/kWh. In fact, among the 10 longest trips—all over 200 miles—the highest efficiency is just 2.91 mi/kWh.
That’s important because a ~90-kWh battery would need approximately 3.67 mi/kWh to travel 330 miles. By comparison, sustained long-distance R2 highway performance is clustering much closer to the high-2s, with the best long runs around 2.9 mi/kWh.
There are shorter trips above 3.0 mi/kWh, so it would be too strong to say the R2 cannot exceed 2.9. It clearly can under favorable speeds and conditions. What the data have not yet demonstrated is the ability to sustain anything close to the ~3.6–3.7 mi/kWh necessary for 330 miles over a long highway trip.
At roughly 2.8–2.9 mi/kWh, a 90-kWh usable battery translates to approximately 252–261 miles. At ~70 mph, the existing data suggest something closer to the 240–250-mile neighborhood.
That’s the critical distinction: 330 miles may be the rated number, but the growing real-world dataset is increasingly defining the R2’s actual highway-range envelope—and so far, nobody has cracked 260 miles.
What the longest R2 drives are telling us:
*Distance ÷ elapsed trip time; this is ground-speed average and may include traffic/stops.
R2 Distance Avg. Speed* Efficiency 90-kWh Range Equivalent OutOfSpec 256.0 mi 66.5 mph 2.80 252 mi EVentureFamily 244.2 mi 54.7 mph 2.90 261 mi VegasWeezy 238.6 mi 67.8 mph 2.91 262 mi LivelySeeker619 223.1 mi 52.5 mph 2.79 251 mi David_Vaught 222.5 mi 65.4 mph 2.45 221 mi LosttheBeat 211.3 mi 71.6 mph 2.74 247 mi launch_rivian 210.6 mi 58.0 mph 2.66 239 mi skr1988 210.0 mi 70.4 mph 2.74 247 mi ROAMER859251 205.1 mi 59.7 mph 2.42 218 mi flex 203.8 mi 55.3 mph 2.41 217 mi
It may be time to bring out the GIMP; the Gap In Measured Performance. The 21” was supposed to be the R2’s range king, but after multiple independent tests and tens of thousands of miles of owner data, that advantage is still nowhere to be found. The EPA numbers say there should be a meaningful gap; the pavement says otherwise. At some point, when the predicted advantage repeatedly fails to appear in the measurements, you have to stop arguing about the rating and start asking why the GIMP exists.
What’s interesting is that almost all car media and EV influencers test EVs at around 75 mph, get results way below the posted total EPA range, and then state that the car’s real-world range is far below EPA. I don’t believe they don’t know what the EPA range actually represents or how to calculate range based on the MPGe numbers on the window sticker. The only reason I can think of is to get more attention, views, and shares. Basically, clickbait.
You appear extremely ignorant based on this...if you'd like to actually be part of the conversation then maybe do the homework/research...but I guess thanks for coming out of the woodwork to fling your opion around?
I don't read as many car reviews as I used to..... are automotive journalists doing this for ICE vehicles too, or just EVs? Seems kinda lopsided if they don't....
Not really, at least I don’t remember ICE reviews being framed this way. If they test a gas car at 75 mph, they usually compare the result to EPA highway MPG, not combined MPG.
They kind of match the EPA numbers only if you drive exactly like the EPA test, use Eco mode all the time, and once you drive a bit faster or floor it in all purpose mode to enter highway, they become extremely inefficient compared to Tesla and others that remain somewhat more efficient.
