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Here we go again. So tell me, what are the reasons to be here? Oh, and by the way.....when you're done, don't forget about investors. I'm one of those too. Although that's not my reason for being here. But you know the best part? That's right, I don't have to give you a single reason for...

You're one of the biggest trolls on the forum. The day you joined this forum, I already knew who you really were. I'm good like that.

That's true of any price point. You see the same kind of sentiment on economy car forums. Kinda like this: "I didn't spend $35,000 on this new car to be treated so poorly by the dealership." It's really across the board at every price point.

You just don't understand the reasons. But that's par for the course, huh?

I appreciate threads like this one as someone still sitting on the sidelines who has not yet decided to purchase. You learn far more on forums than anywhere else. It's good to see the real story with owner's who struggle with issues or owner's who are completely happy, etc... One thing I've...

I can't believe that the thread got to four pages before you chimed in with your infinite wisdom! :) Now go get 'em, tiger! You beat down those nasty 3 trolls with your zucchini stick!

This is just one of the reasons I've decided to hold off myself. It's definitely the right decision for me at this point in time.

Why come back to interact when he gets responses like some of these? There are people here that apparently want to chase people out of the forum who don't drink the Rivian Kool-Aid

Both of my vehicles (Audi and Jeep) will allow me to turn on the fog lights with the headlights off.

I was talking about pricing at launch. Rivian didn't start at the price they claimed. I think we will most likely see the same thing happen with the R2.

My guess for the R2 was always $55k. I never believed the $45k price because it seemed too good to be true. If I remember correctly, Rivian said the original R1T would cost $67k, but by the time they started selling them, they were more like $75k, right? Something like that, I don’t really...

Will there be an R2 at $45k though?

I think there will definitely be a price difference for sure, but even at those prices, the Scout is closer to the R2 than the R1. And I'm not so sure that I believe the R2 will be $45k either, but I guess we'll see...

Imagine buying an R1S for the price of an R2 (based upon known figures for the R1S and the projected figures for the R2) That's the big advantage for Scout right there. The price point says R2, but the vehicle competes more with the R1. And for the offroad crowd, the Scout is most likely going...

There's really no defined rule for when a company moves away from being considered a startup. But many people look at things like attaining profitability, stop relying on external funding, low risk of failure, etc. To me, Rivian is still firmly a startup company. Maybe I'll feel differently...

The difference is this: it's not IF you take a vehicle offroad that matters. What truly matters is if you can. That's why many people choose capable vehicles on the first place, even if they don't intend to offroad them.

The Scout is really going to be a problem for Rivian if things go the way they claim. If the Scout is priced similarly to the R2, I really think it's going to eat into Rivian sales, both R2 and R1.

That works both ways, right? You know what they say about assumptions.

That makes sense. And that's why you just posted a bunch of reasons why your Rivian is unreliable without even realizing it. The stranded thing is just one aspect of reliability. All the other issues you mentioned are also factors in overall reliability. And FWIW, most modern vehicles have...

I hear you and I agree, but one car is a pretty much irrelevant. My current Audi and Jeep have not yet had a single issue. And the Audi is pretty modified and makes more than double it's original horsepower. Neither of those vehicles are known for reliability, although Audi has been more...