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And maybe even including Tesla.

Don't forget electricity.....it's also subsidized.

The bottom line is that without any lockers, you better have a damn good brake based traction control system. Land Rover is the gold standard here. And Jeep has pretty much copied them down to the smallest detail. Toyota's ATRAC is also decent, but still needs lockers to really compete. I've had...

Crazy conspiracy theories.... ?

This is starting to become a big issue across the entire car industry. Manufacturers are now putting next generation Secure Gateways to protect their CAN-BUS systems that require a code from the manufacturer to grant access for just 24 hours. If you have the proper hardware, software, and...

I got in right around $50 and had planned from day one to sit on that initial investment for five to ten years. But five years as an absolute minimum. Sinkng stock prices suck, but I don't really worry about it. Unless Rivian goes under, their stock price will increase over time.

At $100+, I basically double my money. At any of the other choices, I still lose money. That said, I'm in it for the long haul, but would most likely sell between $50 and $100.

Why though? Seems like it would be good for them, no?

If your tires are at 2mm, they really need to be replaced anyway. The standard minimum tread depth is 2/32" and 2 mm is pretty close to that. It's too bad Rivian didn't put the Michelin Defenders on the 22" wheels as the original equipment tire, but I'm sure the cost of those tires is higher...

By stall, I'm not literally meaning stall. I'm not sure what other word would describe a situation where the wheels simply will not turn. But that's exactly what I've seen in videos of other people off-roading the R1. Despite the torque, an electric motor can easily have a difficult time...

Probably the biggest issue with the R1 off-road is the way it can get into a stall condition when stopped on an uphill obstacle. I've watch several videos where that happened, among the first was Kyle from OOS when he tested both an R1T and an R1S on the same hill. He claimed to have been...

The same is true for almost any vehicle other than the most basic transportation. You know, something like a Toyota Corolla. That's about as basic as can be, so it might be a need much more than a want. Any enthusiast vehicle is definitely under the want category and I've owned nothing but...

True, but Leon could do the same thing. This is the age we live in.

I know...and what I was saying is that's similar to the functionality you get natively with AA/CP.

Sure, but I'm talking about an outright ban instead of tariffs. There are ways to even the playing field with Chinese competition without effectively banning them altogether.

I've got a set of Trail Terrians on my Jeep and they are surprisingly good for a basic all-terrain tire. Their snow performance in particular was much better than I had expected. But on road or off road, they seem to do everything pretty well. And they are almost as quiet as your average...

Does anyone think that Chinese EVs here in the states would help more than it would hurt? Wouldn't it force more competition, innovation, price parity, etc? I get the downsides, but it still makes me wonder if a ban is the "right" thing to do.

My young cousin just got her first car...a new Chevy Trailblazer RS that has a 3-cylinder turbo engine. The stats on it are very tame, but I got a chance to drive it and was absolutely shocked how it felt on the road. The turbo on that little engine is obviously designed to provide low-end...

Exactly. I've been saying the same thing over and over again for a long time.....even a base dual motor has far more performance than anyone really needs for a street vehicle. Personally, I think that a range/performance balance should favor range because performance just really doesn't matter...

I'm super curious to see how the upcoming Scouts will perform in real-world off-road scenarios for this very reason. And truth be told, when I do decide to jump into the mix, it just might end up being a Scout over a Rivian because of the capability. Time will tell....