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I believe the 12V was removed in the 2024 models, correct? Are some 2023 models missing them as well?

Great stuff, thanks for sharing. Interesting about the doors. Hmm... I'm really curious now as I'll admit that I'm bit of a door thunk snob. ? Unless the door is made using a lighter material (overall), which I doubt, the other more probable reason is it having less noise dampening material...

I'm with you on the slate sky + walnut. It's just not doing it for me. I guess like how taste buds change every 7 years, as they say, perhaps with old age this type of combo becomes more appealing? ? It's like the doo doo brown color that's in the old and even new luxury cars. They're clearly...

This keeps looking at me and I'm looking at it. Struggling. The staring contest is real. What do you guys think? $125K?

Thanks for your input. Having a lot of time with both vehicles I can confidently say that the ride quality, suspension tuning (although not even air suspension) in the EV9 is much better than the Gen 1 QM. I did mention the smooth and quiet ride quality of the EV9 throughout the thread, but I'll...

That's true. It's a fine balance and all about the timing. In Rivian's case they had no choice but to address the cash burning model that was incinerating their cash stockpile. I also have a feeling that internally they set a target for at the very earliest the tail end of 2025 for the R2, which...

Half way into this sentence...."You dont even need a product; but show there is ..." I couldn't help but to think of Fisker(Trickster) and VinFail(fast) ? Fisker was good at selling ice to a penguin and the special breed of penguins bought into the scam, now all left holding the bag. Suckers...

It's a different breed out there. A lot of them need to revisit this.

Not really over selling anything. You assume that we all live in a Matrix with all sharing the exact same experiences and reality. Let's keep it simple. Having some juice to go fast and to get out of situations is a real thing. Ever been sandwiched between a semi or a swerving car and a median...

It still amazes me how people quote wikipedia out of all things, the wild west of the web. I've been shocked at all the green peas that are new in the EV world here. I came here with the expectation that everyone had at least a common level of knowledge as early adopters, but boy have I been...

Yes, Rivian does need to sell at a profit to be successful. Shocking isn't it? Even from the horses mouth RJ said that Q2 2024 will be messy to let's revisit this when the numbers do come out and see how shocked we'll be.

My mistake I had a million tabs open and went from diving deep into the Q1 2024 data to this. Regardless, RJ did say that Q2 2024 will be messy so the Q2 2024 numbers are expected to be underwhelming. " EV maker Rivian (RIVN) is warning that Q2 could be “messy.” Rivian’s CEO, RJ Scaringe...

100% agree. There are a lot of moving parts in this game and boy is it true that no matter how good of a product you have, if the timing is off, kaboom goes that opportunity. To Rivian's credit, I think what they were able to accomplish going from Gen 1 to Gen 2 is quite incredible. Simplifying...

That's what I'm afraid of too, especially with all of them not even qualifying for the tax credit (when purchasing that is). The first two Standard and plus models with LFP, not a chance, while the rest are over the $80K threshold. I get that some don't qualify anyway for the tax credit, but...

Well said. From what I've been seeing, likely from heavy investors here, a lot appear to ignore the fact that a luxury type of vehicle is not a volume seller, regardless if the R1 was the best selling luxury EV. The first wave of Rivian buyers have already bought theirs and a small amount of...

That's a great question. Here's my take. If Rivian does go under, it'll highly likely be bought out and hopefully things will continue as normal with the infrastructure and teams in place. At the end of the day it's all about that $$$$$, which is the fuel to keep the wheels turning. Let's just...

In my opinion, 2025 is an important year for EVs in general, especially affordable EVs. This is why I think it would have been more beneficial for Rivian to fast track the R2 and arguably even more so the R3s as much as they could for a 2025 release. Easier said than done I know, but the point...

Well it's not a BS justification by any means. I absolutely love fast cars and there's no reason to hide that. Never have. I was simply giving a legit counter of equal value. Quite frankly, I wouldn't want my Wife in a slow car with my kids and that's not a BS justification. To each their...

Just throwing in a different perspective. Let's not forget for those that are poo poo'ing the value of being able to sprint 0-60 in >2.5 secs, in our household being able to get out of dodge quickly in sticky situations is absolutely a safety feature. Period. Luckily for most EV owners even...

This is amazing. Very exciting times. Go Rivian. As one that frequent the track with my cars, it's nice to see faster EV SUVs crushing into the sub 3 second territory, let alone running 10s (w/ the new Quad). You guys won't believe the ego popping going on at the tracks as EVs destroy the loud...