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  1. 20" Nitto Recon Grappler AT tires 25% more efficient than Pirelli OEM AT! The holy grail!

    My experience with the platinums required me to go from 50psi to 65psi before i saw any improvment in efficiency, but at 65, it was plain rough.
  2. 20" Nitto Recon Grappler AT tires 25% more efficient than Pirelli OEM AT! The holy grail!

    By the way - here is a pic from my pirelly’s - just happen to have it lol exactly 1.85 lol
  3. 20" Nitto Recon Grappler AT tires 25% more efficient than Pirelli OEM AT! The holy grail!

    I didn’t know that SL are more fuel efficient… so i guess lower weight, 116 vs LT, and SL all contribute to the results i’m seeing!
  4. 20" Nitto Recon Grappler AT tires 25% more efficient than Pirelli OEM AT! The holy grail!

    What on earth are you doing to get 2.24mi/kwh on an 835HP truck? Lol In all seriousness, at higher elevation, you should see better efficiency due to the air density - particularly at highway speeds. Less air = less air resistnace… regardless, you are doing awesome at 2.24!
  5. 20" Nitto Recon Grappler AT tires 25% more efficient than Pirelli OEM AT! The holy grail!

    I had the same question to Discount Tire, but since they are 116, they are the same weight limit of 2,756 lbs per axle, just at 44psi. Regarding the MPK, that shouldn’t be the measure since everyone has different environmental situations. My truck is always loaded with a few hundred more...
  6. 20" Nitto Recon Grappler AT tires 25% more efficient than Pirelli OEM AT! The holy grail!

    My hypothesis is that it depends on the number of those micro gooves that make tires better in the snow… the more a tire has, the more snow rated and the more the tire flexes, hence increasing rolling resistance. I think rolling resisntance is a function of tire softness and deformation. That’s...
  7. 20" Nitto Recon Grappler AT tires 25% more efficient than Pirelli OEM AT! The holy grail!

    Agreed. your results may vary, but under my environment - car, temps, commute, etc… there was a significant difference… that difference may be smaller for someone in alaska or someone that drives it like they stole it lol…
  8. 20" Nitto Recon Grappler AT tires 25% more efficient than Pirelli OEM AT! The holy grail!

    Ah… the whole tire and wheel… got it. that makes the calc harder than just the tire weight, because the tire weight affects the outer weight… but chaning wheels also changes the inner weight and angular momentum is based on radial weight avg. distance…
  9. 20" Nitto Recon Grappler AT tires 25% more efficient than Pirelli OEM AT! The holy grail!

    Man 20 lb ligher each that the stock 21” sure? The stock 21s are very light…
  10. 20" Nitto Recon Grappler AT tires 25% more efficient than Pirelli OEM AT! The holy grail!

    Subjective… if i were to put scores on the slalom situation above ~~40 MPH, i would give the Pirelli ATs a 7, the defender 5, platinum 6, and Nitto 7. Cornering they were good and similar For all 3, with the Defender LTX slightly better… my concern was in fast swirving. I had an emergency...
  11. 20" Nitto Recon Grappler AT tires 25% more efficient than Pirelli OEM AT! The holy grail!

    Forgot to mention the con of these 116 rated tires is that they are not tough as the LTs… so if you do heavy offroad and towing, the LTs are the better choice i think.,..
  12. 20" Nitto Recon Grappler AT tires 25% more efficient than Pirelli OEM AT! The holy grail!

    You are right on the angular momentum. I think there are other variables that are yielding the results. I’m not a physicist, but have to imagine that hardness/softness of the rubber exerts different pressure on the road - even with the coefficient of friction being the same, it takes more to...
  13. 20" Nitto Recon Grappler AT tires 25% more efficient than Pirelli OEM AT! The holy grail!

    I’ve done very light mudd - pretty good, but that is very subjective. The Falken and Bajas are significantly heavier so the range will be bad. I always thought Nitto’s were second class… now i changed my view of them (at least in the first 1k miles). I haven’t tried the Nokian, but hey with...
  14. 20" Nitto Recon Grappler AT tires 25% more efficient than Pirelli OEM AT! The holy grail!

    Thank you! I would have never chosen these tires! This was at the Cumming, GA location so kudos to that store! They were patient with me through this jouirney!
  15. 20" Nitto Recon Grappler AT tires 25% more efficient than Pirelli OEM AT! The holy grail!

    I have done a lot of calcs and these weren’t even in my choice list because of the online reviews of the LTs, but glad i pulled the trigger. I just towed a side by side for 500 miles over the weekend - it was beautiful and handles awesome in the highway. I still can’t believe it, but after 1k...
  16. 20" Nitto Recon Grappler AT tires 25% more efficient than Pirelli OEM AT! The holy grail!

    I really wanted to love the Platinums… and even til the last moment was doubting the choice… but can’t be happier.
  17. 20" Nitto Recon Grappler AT tires 25% more efficient than Pirelli OEM AT! The holy grail!

    That’s exactly it. My 0-60 times on the defender Platinum were 3.8 secs on the draggy, they are down to 3.5 on the Nittos. It is a quad, but i always have a lot of ammo and offroad gear in the truck, so that always adds a good bit of weigth… besides i weigh 250 lbs lol.
  18. 20" Nitto Recon Grappler AT tires 25% more efficient than Pirelli OEM AT! The holy grail!

    I didn’t have the computer readjusted, but the 2.4 was after the 3% adjustment. Good clarification.





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