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Sell it? What a wonderful suggestion. Dump it on someone else.

There is no issue here. It's within specs and functions as designed. Standard response borrowed from Tesla. They designed it like this even though they had no clue it would sound like this in the summer. So, because it was designed this way, you have no recourse. Except, you can sue, and you...

And what prevents EVGo from having the same solution for CCS-to-NACS captive adapters? Until December 2021, Teslas couldn’t charge at CCS DC chargers (not for the lack of the adapter per se but for the lack of CCS protocol in Teslas). This is why EVGo went with CHAdeMO-to-NACS captive adapters...

This is a much better explanation than "Rivian is spending all their money on building factories".

Wrong. EVGo DC stations have NACS handles.

What does this even mean? Opening the door to Tesla to be the only choice for what? For a charging connector? Why is it bad? Everyone in the US has the same 120V AC wall outlet form factor. Is it BAD? NACS is nothing more besides a physical form factor. You can run any protocol over it. This...

I ran both through ABRP, and the results are in the original post. The ID.4 is MUCH more comfortable.

It's not a hypothetical question. It's a practical question that I am struggling with right now. ID.4 is a much more comfortable vehicle to travel in. Frankly, I can't fathom doing this in the Model Y because of how noisy and bumpy the ride is. Doing 6,000 miles in a Model Y will not be a fun...

The question would have been about the Rivian if my year-old order had been delivered by now. So, consider this question to be about a CCS1 EV vs a Tesla Model Y.

There is NO relevance. What Tesla opened to third-party EV manufacturers so far is NACS, which is a physical connector specification. As for the access to the Supercharger network, it would have to be negotiated between each EV manufacturer and Tesla. Even if an EV manufacturer decides to...

But this is not what this thread is about. If after 18 pages you are still not getting what this is about, then no one can’t help you.

Costs of building a new factory is not counted as a loss. It’s a capital expense. Common error among fanbois. Tesla fanbois used to came back with this one for years when Tesla had losses. Do you have a better answer? Like list of itemized losses per vehicle? All I did was quote a well know...

Yes, cancel it. No point to get a panic attack over a vehicle purchase. If it feels wrong, you are making the wrong decision. The first feeling you get is always correct. Why pay $100,000 for a vehicle and then hate it?

Like I said in my post, the rest of the mileage is in Quebec.

Need to drive to Quebec City, stay in Quebec for 6 weeks, and drive back to Atlanta. I have two vehicles: ID.4 and Model Y. The distance is 1,400 each way. The rest of the mileage will be in Quebec. CCS charging infrastructure is good in Quebec. A two-stall DCFC (50 kW and 100 kW) about...

This was in Southern California. Now imagine doing this in the Southeast, where I live. It’s much worse here. What you described is NOT. A charging desert. A charging desert is here in the Southeast.

No one makes you buy an EV with a NACS connector. You will be able to buy a bunch of used EVs with CCS1. Enjoy.

Yes, I’ve read every single post in this thread, including your FUD. TWO MAJOR EV MANUFACTURERS HAVE JUST ADOPTED THIS CONNECTOR. Among Tesla, Ford, and GM, 80% of EV market share in the US and Canada will be using NACS. You can continue living with your FUD. The ship has sailed.

This is what’s called FUD. It’s not sarcasm, satire, or comedy. It’s FUD.

The problem is that you STILL can’t comprehend that NACS is a physical adapter specification, and that is ALL. Do you realize that there are no licensing fees involved and that by having a third-party manufacture a NACS connector, an EV manufacturer doesn’t hand anything at all to Musk?